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sadekcivil
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Superelevation Transition Length Formula

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11-20-2011 02:02 PM

Hello There,

 

I would like to ask if i can apply Superelevation Transition Length Formula for length of runoff and runout from AASHTO

{Lr=(w*ed*n*bw)/maximum relative gradient}, {Lt=(enc/ed)*Lr} in XML file (in Civil 3D).

Beacause i tried many times to apply this formula but it didn't success with me.

 

I will be very appreciate for help and advice.

 

Thank you.

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gjrcmb
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Re: Superelevation Transition Length Formula

11-20-2011 05:25 PM in reply to: sadekcivil

I have not tried defining the formulas for superelevation.  But based on the following two resources I found, it seems that you need to define the superelevation using the variables as defined by Autodesk for AutoCAD Civil 3D.

See Superelevation Variables and Formulas

Also it appears that while you can change the formulas in the XML file or perferably a copy of the XML file, that it probably makes more sense editing them through the Design Criteria Editor.

See Rule-Based Road Design using AutoCAD Civil and AutoCAD Civil 3D

 

Not sure if you had already looked at those resources, but if not, maybe that helps.

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Re: Superelevation Transition Length Formula

11-21-2011 01:04 AM in reply to: sadekcivil

So, i got it we can modify this formula from 

tLength="{v}^3/(46.656*{q}*{r})"

to the following formula

tLength="({w}*{e})/{q}"

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Re: Superelevation Transition Length Formula

11-21-2011 02:25 AM in reply to: sadekcivil

But one more thing,

I want to calculate the superelevation rate from this equation eRate="({v}^2/(127*{r}))-0.12" instead of this one 

eRate="{v}^2/(2.82528*{r})"

But actually it didn't success with me and return me the minimum eRate

 

So, is there any advice for this issue.

 

Thank you.

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Re: Superelevation Transition Length Formula

11-21-2011 10:42 AM in reply to: sadekcivil

Are you changing the eRate formula in the Design Criteria Editor?  See attached Editor image.  Note make sure Make File Read Only box is unchecked.

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