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Stupid Question about super elevation

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12-03-2013 03:18 PM

I know I can use the outsideLane super and apply the calculation the to attain SE in my model. If I wanted to have a shoulder roll over opposing SE , that is if Full super of the lanes is 4%  I'd like the shoulder to transition to -4%. How do I construct the assembly to do this? Do I have to manually profile the transition to target, or will a sub read the se calc for the shoulder and develop automatically?

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Re: Stupid Question about super elevation

12-03-2013 07:10 PM in reply to: Joe-Bouza

That was answered during an AU class this morning, but you missed it. :-)

 

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Re: Stupid Question about super elevation

12-04-2013 04:56 AM in reply to: sboon
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Your'e in the right town :smileyhappy: Say hello for me
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Re: Stupid Question about super elevation

12-04-2013 08:11 AM in reply to: Joe-Bouza
I think if you look at the superelevation table you can change the specifics such as lane and shoulder slopes. I did that on my last project and it seemed to work pretty good.
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Re: Stupid Question about super elevation

12-04-2013 08:33 AM in reply to: engrtech
Thank you, but back to the first question: How is the assembly constructed? can I add another lane segment to take the shoulder break? I not sure if I can use a shoulder sub because I am building a curbed section. And I don't see shoulder parameters din the Lane outside super
Thank you

Joseph D. Bouza, P.E. (one of 'THOSE' People) Civil 3D 2012 & 2013
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Re: Stupid Question about super elevation

12-04-2013 10:35 AM in reply to: Joe-Bouza

Like this?

 

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Re: Stupid Question about super elevation

12-04-2013 01:16 PM in reply to: fcernst

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Re: Stupid Question about super elevation

12-04-2013 02:06 PM in reply to: Joe-Bouza

I'm not sure what you are trying to do now. Do you have a typical section?

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Re: Stupid Question about super elevation

12-04-2013 02:24 PM in reply to: Joe-Bouza

Pardon the caveman drafting. When I get to super I wanted to break the shoulder the opposite way. I didn't know how to set it up. I used an outside lane super segment that gets is cross slope fro m the inside that get it from the super calc. For the region where I needed to rollover, I added a layout profile to target and got what I want, for now. I feel like I worked too hard and there must be a more elegant way to do it.

 

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Re: Stupid Question about super elevation

12-04-2013 03:12 PM in reply to: Joe-Bouza

I feel like I worked too hard and there must be a more elegant way to do it.

 


Use the Superelevation View, it's fast.


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