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Sheet print area from polygonal viewport?

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Message 1 of 18
Solefio
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Sheet print area from polygonal viewport?

I am trying to create two column sheets with a polygonal viewport, but it doesn't seem to work. The point is that I want to use the area above the stamp to be able to fit two columns on one sheet, but the last section in the second column ends up where my stamp is. Is this possible? Is there another way to solve this problem? I'm not to keen on moving the sections by hand, since they keep jumping back.. I'm using Civil 3D 2013.

 

/Sofie

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Message 2 of 18
troma
in reply to: Solefio

Difficult to understand your question. What is your stamp? Is that relevant? Are you talking about multiple section views? Are you talking about plan production?
Posting a picture of your dilemma may help.

Mark Green

Working on Civil 3D in Canada

Message 3 of 18
Solefio
in reply to: troma

No, it's not relevant what my stamp is, its the shape of the viewport that's relevant. It's multiple section views i'm trying to make. In the picture the cyan shape is the viewport I want, the yellow is the printarea i get (when i make a template with the polygon viewport) and as you can see the last section won't be seen in the final layout as it won't fit in the viewport. Is this clearer?

Message 4 of 18
troma
in reply to: Solefio

OK, I understand.
Sorry, I don't know of a solution for you. Hope someone else can help.

Mark Green

Working on Civil 3D in Canada

Message 5 of 18
antoniovinci
in reply to: Solefio

Madame, please sit down comfortably and listen.

There are mandatory 3 rules in this forum:

1] Nothing is impossible for Autocad
2] For Autocad impossible is nothing

Throw away your non-standard polygonal viewports, use a classic rectangular one, then press F1 and learn all about the powerful _WIPEOUT command.

3] Period.

Message 6 of 18
troma
in reply to: antoniovinci

Sofie stated that her 'Stamp' is in that location. I don't know what the 'stamp' is, but I presume it is part of the title block in paperspace. Therefore it is necessary to print the 'stamp' and not obscure it with a wipeout.

Mark Green

Working on Civil 3D in Canada

Message 7 of 18
Solefio
in reply to: antoniovinci

But a wipout in the layout won't affect my multiple section view template print area, will it? It's the position of the sections I want to change, the polygonal viewport works fine as a viewport, but not in the template.

 

And yes, by stamp I mean title block. A bit of swenglish there, sorry.

Message 8 of 18
peterfunkautodesk
in reply to: Solefio

The program that calculates the number of sections that can fit on a sheet looks only at the overall rectangle and wasn't designed to look at a plot space that would have different settings per column. Your plot space would also have issues if the sections were very wide.

 

I think it comes down to a couple of factors: extra white space (set the plot space to cut off the whole bottom row) with automated layout vs. reduced white space and saving a few sheets of paper, but your time in moving the sections around on the sheet.

 

Two other solutions: new title block or a routine that would re order the sections after the initial layout.

 

Peter Funk

Autodesk, Inc.



Peter Funk
Autodesk, Inc.

Message 9 of 18
wfberry
in reply to: peterfunkautodesk

What about being to lock sections in place AFTER they have been moved.  If you can do this now please advise.

 

Bill

 

 

Message 10 of 18
peterfunkautodesk
in reply to: wfberry

The sections don't move after they are placed. If the corridor changes the sections are just updated in place.

 

Is that the question?

 

Regards,

 

Peter Funk

Autodesk, Inc.



Peter Funk
Autodesk, Inc.

Message 11 of 18
wfberry
in reply to: peterfunkautodesk

OK then.  I am pretty sure a couple of yeara ago, sections would "re-organized" themselves.  I have had no need recently with the economy in the "terlit",

 

Thanks for your answer.

 

Bill

Message 12 of 18
Solefio
in reply to: wfberry

The sections do rearange when you change the Section view group plot style. But once I've decided how i'll do I won't be changing that so ok. Just frustrating when you can do something with a different softwere and not with Civil Smiley Tongue

 

 

Message 13 of 18
ceethreedee.com
in reply to: Solefio

The sections do Rearrange themselves

 

If you select a section and right click-> update section view layout.

 

updatesectionlayout.gif

 

They will update if you change the scale, or edit the group plot settings..

 

The sections won;t update though if try and add a new section in.. you can delete sections strangely though.. and it will re arrange..

 

Kapanther

Civil 3D 2021 (Update 1), ACAD (SP1.3) MAP (HF0.4)
Infraworks 2021.1,
Win 10 -DELL Precision Notebook 7730

ceethreedee.com
Message 14 of 18

Yes,, just tested polygonal viewports do not work...

 

even though i created a template with polygonal viewport

sectionframes2.gif

 

It still only shows the rectangular frame in model space...

 

sectionframes1.gif

 

although it doesnt seem to even get that right.. it seems to put all the text from the annotation outside the frame... So it gets cut off when you go into paperspace...

 

Bug??

 

Kapanther

 

Civil 3D 2021 (Update 1), ACAD (SP1.3) MAP (HF0.4)
Infraworks 2021.1,
Win 10 -DELL Precision Notebook 7730

ceethreedee.com
Message 15 of 18
mathewkol
in reply to: Solefio

Kapanther, this is a different you need to have a data band on the bottom of every section view. Turn off all components so they can't be seen and make the title component on the left. Adjust the sizing until things look correct.
Matt Kolberg
SolidCAD Professional Services
http://www.solidcad.ca /
Message 16 of 18
ceethreedee.com
in reply to: mathewkol

Lol its a good work around... Still annoying that it doesn't sort that out automatically....

 

Thanks for your help..

 

sectionframesfixed.gif

 

Regards

 

Kapanther

Civil 3D 2021 (Update 1), ACAD (SP1.3) MAP (HF0.4)
Infraworks 2021.1,
Win 10 -DELL Precision Notebook 7730

ceethreedee.com
Message 17 of 18

BUMPing this one just to see if someone has managed to solve this most annoying problem.

Template with polygonal viewport for the stampTemplate with polygonal viewport for the stampResult using the template. No regards are taken to my polygonal stamp cutout in the templateResult using the template. No regards are taken to my polygonal stamp cutout in the template

Message 18 of 18
AllenJessup
in reply to: henrik.sjoman

I don't even try to let the program fit the sections. I let them be created in modelspace in just one column and the create two viewports in paperspace to display the ones I want.



Allen Jessup
Engineering Specialist / CAD Manager

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