Set Default Point Group

[jtroutt]

How do I set a Default Point Group?  When creating points manually, I want them to automatically go into a certain/current point group, but since I don't know the point range prior to creating the points, I am having to continuously update the "include" points catergory.  I can set the default/current layer, default point style, etc, can I do the same with point group?  I understand about the "all points" group and the description keys that can be utilized in the other individual point groups to group information , but Is there a better way?  Under the point creation toolbar, there is a point group template, but when I create a point group thru there, it doesn't do anything but create the point group.  None of the newly created points go into that group....  what is the point of that option? 

Thanks for reading,

J

[Jeff_M]

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@jtroutt wrote:

How do I set a Default Point Group?  When creating points manually, I want them to automatically go into a certain/current point group, but since I don't know the point range prior to creating the points, I am having to continuously update the "include" points catergory.  

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Set your desired point group's Include range to the next point number (can be seen in the create points Identity section) through 999999. Once done, go back and change it to the real range. No need to 'continously update' the property. 

[Joe-Bouza]

If you use by number you have to dedicate a a range to make it easy. You can also include by description. Surely you can dedicate the description, no?

[deltacoolguy]

I understand exactly what the OP is saying, and I would like to be able to do the same thing.  There are times that I would like to set a "current" point group where all points I create, as I create them, regardless any other parameters such as number or description, gets automatically added to the current point group only (and _all points, of course).  Being careful with descriptions often works fine, but is not always efficient for what I am doing at the moment.

If I understand the answers correctly, the short answer is, "No, you can't do that."

Off to the wishlist forum, I guess.

[Sinc]

There is third-party support for this...

http://www.quuxsoft.com/

In general, all point creation commands in this suite allow automatic assignment to a Point Group.  You can also pre-create Point Groups that include various Description Keys, etc., and an automatic Point Group Update occurs, so you don't have to constantly go into Toolspace and update your Point Groups.

There are a few limitations...  Autodesk screwed us up at one point, I think when they added the Import Events, because that doesn't trigger the automatic update the way it used to do in older versions of C3D.  But it usually works.  And there are a number of Point Creation commands in the Sincpac-C3D that let you select EXACTLY which Point Group you want each point to be added to.

[BrianHailey]

If you aren't using description keys, set the default layer to whatever, create the points, select the points on that layer, isolate the objects, add to point group. Not exactly what you are wanting but a possible workaround.

[deltacoolguy]

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@BrianHailey wrote:

If you aren't using description keys, set the default layer to whatever, create the points, select the points on that layer, isolate the objects, add to point group. Not exactly what you are wanting but a possible workaround.

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The best work-around I've seen thus far.  Thanks.