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Re: River Analysis Extension for AutoCAD Civil 3D / AutoCAD Map 3D

04-08-2013 12:31 PM in reply to: engineer4life1979

2012 only. RAE has been on lag by one year since 2010(?) I have 2012 and 2013 on my laptop right now. 2012 specifically for RA Engine.

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Re: River Analysis Extension for AutoCAD Civil 3D / AutoCAD Map 3D

04-09-2013 06:44 AM in reply to: gauss2069

The technology preview of the River Analysis Extension started with 2012. The team extended the preview so that people who were already using it on 2012 could finish up. The amount of feedback they got from 2012 users was sufficient enough that they did not need to open it up to 2013 users. Now the technology so available as part of the Autodesk Infrastructure Design Suite 2014 Ultimate suite.

 

  • AutoCAD Civil 3D 2012 users: These users should make sure they have SP1 and can continue to use the tech preview until June 30. After that they should upgrade to Autodesk Infrastructure Design Suite 2014 Ultimate.
  • AutoCAD Civil 3D 2013 users: These users should upgrade to Autodesk Infrastructure Design Suite 2014 Ultimate right away.
  • AutoCAD Civil 3D 2014 users: These users start off by purchasing Autodesk Infrastructure Design Suite 2014 Ultimate.


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Re: River Analysis Extension for AutoCAD Civil 3D / AutoCAD Map 3D

04-10-2013 01:41 AM in reply to: scott.sheppard
So, it looks that the RAE will be available only in Ultimate Suite. Upgrading from Premium to Ultimate is way too expensive to the "water consultants" like me. RAE would be the only reason to upgrade and it is not worth it. I downloaded some time ago Esri ArcGis evaluation version. ArcGis 10 with Spatial Analyst and Hec-GeoRas looks very tempting. They do roughly same things as Civil3D and RAE, but also much much more. And the price is about the same as upgrading to Ultimate. For me the purchase decision looks easy.
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Re: River Analysis Extension for AutoCAD Civil 3D / AutoCAD Map 3D

04-10-2013 04:02 AM in reply to: Yami72
YES!

They have just priced themselves out of the market. Especially when this program is, at its core, just a nicer ACAD GUI interface for a FREE program anyway - Hec-Ras.
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Re: River Analysis Extension for AutoCAD Civil 3D / AutoCAD Map 3D

04-10-2013 05:03 AM in reply to: ROBERTLEE2890

As I've paid for this years subs I'll see how the 2014 stuff looks but unless there is a major overhall of SSA and much improved GIS intrgration for design I think the only option is to look at other options.

As I see it many of us were hoodwinked into buying into Civil 3d back 5-6 years ago on the basis it was a design program. Aside from Novapoint-like road design and some unstable grading design there was no design and there still isn't really anything very reliable or efficient.

Realistically switchin to ArcGIS appears logical as they also have mobile based editing (arcpad) that might actually work compared to the unsuable WS. I know it's a bit off topic but I imagine Infoworks is the best alternative option for services design, windes was fine previously but appears a bit behind. Thankfully I've issued any HEC-RAS works that we have on the books or at least imported it into Hec-Ras so once the next one comes off to ArcGIS for a trial I suppose, does it deal with crossection generation from survey data?

 

In relation to the broader "design suites" Autodesk should consider re-naming them to be more realistic;

Drafting Suite

Technician Suite

Designer Suite

 

This is really where the autodesk plan is going I think.

 

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Re: River Analysis Extension for AutoCAD Civil 3D / AutoCAD Map 3D

04-25-2013 10:57 AM in reply to: O.Maille

So looking at the new Infrastructure Suite matrices, some show RAE in Premium and some show RAE only in Ultimate.  There is a foot note on one of the pages saying that it is in Premium/Ultimate subscription only.  We are getting ready to deploy 2014 and making the decision on upgrading a single seat to Ultimate or going the geo-RAS route.  Is this for sure in the Ultimate Suite only?

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Re: River Analysis Extension for AutoCAD Civil 3D / AutoCAD Map 3D

04-26-2013 08:56 AM in reply to: ccantrell

Every internal email I have seen has had it in Ultimate only. (And no, I don't work on commission)



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Re: River Analysis Extension for AutoCAD Civil 3D / AutoCAD Map 3D

04-26-2013 09:20 AM in reply to: gauss2069

it is ultimate only.

 

Can you post the links where you have seen discrepencies? I will have them corrected.

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04-29-2013 07:16 AM in reply to: dana.probert

Thanks for the update Dana.  I can't for the life of me find the link we were looking at last week that said Premium/Ultimate.  The only link I see that could still be confusing is the one provided below.  Although it clearly shows a check in the ultimate column, there is a ** footnote that could use a bit more clarity maybe.  

 

http://www.autodesk.com/suites/infrastructure-design-suite/included-software

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Re: River Analysis Extension for AutoCAD Civil 3D / AutoCAD Map 3D

05-03-2013 11:58 AM in reply to: scott.sheppard

Hi Scott,

I wondered if this extension is coming in version 2014  infrastructure premium suite or only on the ultimate, with or without a subscription?

Thanks for your time

 

Roberto Jim

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