Preaching to the Choir

[Anonymous]

A lot of the people who read this newsgroup have been using this product and have a vision of how it can transform their business.
We have now gotten to the point where it's getting deployed, as rabidly as we can, to all of our Civil users.
It's not easy, it's expensive, But in our judgment it's worth it.
It's really tough if you are trying to do it yourself.
We didn't.
There are a lot of resources available out there.
Many blogs.
The Civil Community group.
If you play your cards right you can get access to Manchester.
They really are interested in what you do.
To James, Jason, Dana, Angel, Danny, Scott, Dan and Dave, AG, NickZ,Peter Funk,Jon Rizzo, John Mayo, RickGraham, MMcCall, sinc, Laurie, Rad, Trevor, All of your stuff has been listened to, granted some of is crap, but thanks guys.
Get on board or get left at the Station

John Postlewait
IS Department
George Butler Associates, Inc.

[T_Bernhard]

Always happy to be thanked for providing crap 😉

Glad to hear your deployment's moving on well.

And thanks for your input too, JP. Heaven knows I've benefited from it often enough, and I don't even use Vault.

Trevor

[dana.probert]

I'd like to thank everyone for reading my crap. I do the best to write quality crap, even if it is sometimes especially crappy.

Just remember this motto when learning Civil 3D

"The problems are between the seat and the keyboard"

(OK THIS TIME YOU KNOW I AM KIDDING, RIGHT?)

[Anonymous]

I am quite proud of the crap I generate, and I especially appreciate when it
is acknowledged as such. 😉

Dana - related to your quote, I was in a training class recently somebody
mentioned that their biggest problem is not hardware or software, it's
warmware. 🙂



wrote in message news:5449298@discussion.autodesk.com...
A lot of the people who read this newsgroup have been using this product and
have a vision of how it can transform their business.
We have now gotten to the point where it's getting deployed, as rabidly as
we can, to all of our Civil users.
It's not easy, it's expensive, But in our judgment it's worth it.
It's really tough if you are trying to do it yourself.
We didn't.
There are a lot of resources available out there.
Many blogs.
The Civil Community group.
If you play your cards right you can get access to Manchester.
They really are interested in what you do.
To James, Jason, Dana, Angel, Danny, Scott, Dan and Dave, AG, NickZ,Peter
Funk,Jon Rizzo, John Mayo, RickGraham, MMcCall, sinc, Laurie, Rad, Trevor,
All of your stuff has been listened to, granted some of is crap, but thanks
guys.
Get on board or get left at the Station

John Postlewait
IS Department
George Butler Associates, Inc.

[Anonymous]

You take training Jon? And here all this time I thought you were
omnipotent.

Nick
"Jon Rizzo" wrote in message
news:5449665@discussion.autodesk.com...
I am quite proud of the crap I generate, and I especially appreciate when it
is acknowledged as such. 😉

Dana - related to your quote, I was in a training class recently somebody
mentioned that their biggest problem is not hardware or software, it's
warmware. 🙂



wrote in message news:5449298@discussion.autodesk.com...
A lot of the people who read this newsgroup have been using this product and
have a vision of how it can transform their business.
We have now gotten to the point where it's getting deployed, as rabidly as
we can, to all of our Civil users.
It's not easy, it's expensive, But in our judgment it's worth it.
It's really tough if you are trying to do it yourself.
We didn't.
There are a lot of resources available out there.
Many blogs.
The Civil Community group.
If you play your cards right you can get access to Manchester.
They really are interested in what you do.
To James, Jason, Dana, Angel, Danny, Scott, Dan and Dave, AG, NickZ,Peter
Funk,Jon Rizzo, John Mayo, RickGraham, MMcCall, sinc, Laurie, Rad, Trevor,
All of your stuff has been listened to, granted some of is crap, but thanks
guys.
Get on board or get left at the Station

John Postlewait
IS Department
George Butler Associates, Inc.

[Anonymous]

I'm sensing a degree of sarcasm is that statement. 😉

I attend quite a lot of training, actually. Autodesk University, to name
one. I deal with way too many many evolving and emerging technologies to
keep up with all of them on my own. In addition, Langan provides a
significant amount of in-house training to share knowledge internally. We
even host graduate level college courses in our training facility.


Jon




"Nick Zeeben" wrote in message
news:5449677@discussion.autodesk.com...
You take training Jon? And here all this time I thought you were
omnipotent.

Nick
"Jon Rizzo" wrote in message
news:5449665@discussion.autodesk.com...
I am quite proud of the crap I generate, and I especially appreciate when it
is acknowledged as such. 😉

Dana - related to your quote, I was in a training class recently somebody
mentioned that their biggest problem is not hardware or software, it's
warmware. 🙂



wrote in message news:5449298@discussion.autodesk.com...
A lot of the people who read this newsgroup have been using this product and
have a vision of how it can transform their business.
We have now gotten to the point where it's getting deployed, as rabidly as
we can, to all of our Civil users.
It's not easy, it's expensive, But in our judgment it's worth it.
It's really tough if you are trying to do it yourself.
We didn't.
There are a lot of resources available out there.
Many blogs.
The Civil Community group.
If you play your cards right you can get access to Manchester.
They really are interested in what you do.
To James, Jason, Dana, Angel, Danny, Scott, Dan and Dave, AG, NickZ,Peter
Funk,Jon Rizzo, John Mayo, RickGraham, MMcCall, sinc, Laurie, Rad, Trevor,
All of your stuff has been listened to, granted some of is crap, but thanks
guys.
Get on board or get left at the Station

John Postlewait
IS Department
George Butler Associates, Inc.

[Anonymous]

For those interested, Jon's company has a real nice write up in the current
issue of CE News.
(I hope the magazine name is correct.)

Bill

"Jon Rizzo" wrote in message
news:5449721@discussion.autodesk.com...
I'm sensing a degree of sarcasm is that statement. 😉

I attend quite a lot of training, actually. Autodesk University, to name
one. I deal with way too many many evolving and emerging technologies to
keep up with all of them on my own. In addition, Langan provides a
significant amount of in-house training to share knowledge internally. We
even host graduate level college courses in our training facility.


Jon

[Anonymous]

Really? I know there was a writeup about a year or two ago, but I haven't
seen anything recent. We did receive a "Top 10" mention in their "Best
Firms to Work For" contest, but that was back in October.



"wfb" wrote in message
news:5450113@discussion.autodesk.com...
For those interested, Jon's company has a real nice write up in the current
issue of CE News.
(I hope the magazine name is correct.)

Bill

"Jon Rizzo" wrote in message
news:5449721@discussion.autodesk.com...
I'm sensing a degree of sarcasm is that statement. 😉

I attend quite a lot of training, actually. Autodesk University, to name
one. I deal with way too many many evolving and emerging technologies to
keep up with all of them on my own. In addition, Langan provides a
significant amount of in-house training to share knowledge internally. We
even host graduate level college courses in our training facility.


Jon

[JermVent]

And here all this time... I thought you guys were posting good stuff... didnt really seem like crap... hrmmm I guess you all can cover it very well?!? muwhahah 😛

Dana - The acronym is PEBKAC - Problem exists between keyboard and chair!

JV

[Anonymous]

Nick,
You posted your reply seconds after I saw you in the lobby. Talk about
addicted or I mean dedicated to this place, that elevator must have wireless
connections.

Murph

"Nick Zeeben" wrote in message
news:5449677@discussion.autodesk.com...
You take training Jon? And here all this time I thought you were
omnipotent.

Nick
"Jon Rizzo" wrote in message
news:5449665@discussion.autodesk.com...
I am quite proud of the crap I generate, and I especially appreciate when it
is acknowledged as such. 😉

Dana - related to your quote, I was in a training class recently somebody
mentioned that their biggest problem is not hardware or software, it's
warmware. 🙂



wrote in message news:5449298@discussion.autodesk.com...
A lot of the people who read this newsgroup have been using this product and
have a vision of how it can transform their business.
We have now gotten to the point where it's getting deployed, as rabidly as
we can, to all of our Civil users.
It's not easy, it's expensive, But in our judgment it's worth it.
It's really tough if you are trying to do it yourself.
We didn't.
There are a lot of resources available out there.
Many blogs.
The Civil Community group.
If you play your cards right you can get access to Manchester.
They really are interested in what you do.
To James, Jason, Dana, Angel, Danny, Scott, Dan and Dave, AG, NickZ,Peter
Funk,Jon Rizzo, John Mayo, RickGraham, MMcCall, sinc, Laurie, Rad, Trevor,
All of your stuff has been listened to, granted some of is crap, but thanks
guys.
Get on board or get left at the Station

John Postlewait
IS Department
George Butler Associates, Inc.

[nzeeben]

Get into the office,

Start computer, start outlook, start outlook express.

Nick
"Murph" wrote in message
news:5450369@discussion.autodesk.com...
Nick,
You posted your reply seconds after I saw you in the lobby. Talk about
addicted or I mean dedicated to this place, that elevator must have wireless
connections.

Murph

"Nick Zeeben" wrote in message
news:5449677@discussion.autodesk.com...
You take training Jon? And here all this time I thought you were
omnipotent.

Nick
"Jon Rizzo" wrote in message
news:5449665@discussion.autodesk.com...
I am quite proud of the crap I generate, and I especially appreciate when it
is acknowledged as such. 😉

Dana - related to your quote, I was in a training class recently somebody
mentioned that their biggest problem is not hardware or software, it's
warmware. 🙂



wrote in message news:5449298@discussion.autodesk.com...
A lot of the people who read this newsgroup have been using this product and
have a vision of how it can transform their business.
We have now gotten to the point where it's getting deployed, as rabidly as
we can, to all of our Civil users.
It's not easy, it's expensive, But in our judgment it's worth it.
It's really tough if you are trying to do it yourself.
We didn't.
There are a lot of resources available out there.
Many blogs.
The Civil Community group.
If you play your cards right you can get access to Manchester.
They really are interested in what you do.
To James, Jason, Dana, Angel, Danny, Scott, Dan and Dave, AG, NickZ,Peter
Funk,Jon Rizzo, John Mayo, RickGraham, MMcCall, sinc, Laurie, Rad, Trevor,
All of your stuff has been listened to, granted some of is crap, but thanks
guys.
Get on board or get left at the Station

John Postlewait
IS Department
George Butler Associates, Inc.

[Anonymous]

Try return to area, shake mouse, hit refresh.
Much faster.
;-)

[Anonymous]

Jon Rizzo wrote:
> I'm sensing a degree of sarcasm is that statement. 😉
>
> I attend quite a lot of training, actually. Autodesk University, to name
> one. I deal with way too many many evolving and emerging technologies to
> keep up with all of them on my own. In addition, Langan provides a
> significant amount of in-house training to share knowledge internally. We
> even host graduate level college courses in our training facility.
>

Yup, drank quite a few beers with Rizz in Vegas. Almost drank enough
to get him to code some complex rail stuff for a client of mine 😉


--
Jason Hickey

Civil 3D 2007, SP3
Dell Precision M70
2 GIG RAM, 256 MB nVidia Quadro FX Go1400
Intel Centrino 2 gHz Processor

www.civil3d.com

[Anonymous]

nzeeben wrote:
> Get into the office,
>
> Start computer, start outlook, start outlook express.


OE???

And I thought you were a good geek...

--
Jason Hickey

Civil 3D 2007, SP3
Dell Precision M70
2 GIG RAM, 256 MB nVidia Quadro FX Go1400
Intel Centrino 2 gHz Processor

www.civil3d.com

[C3D_RickGraham]

I am honored to be mentioned as one of the crap contributors! 😉 I've DUMPED
here many times and left my mark (stain) in this DG. And finally, I thought
the absolute BEST AU information I received this year was held at stall #4
3rd level-right! 😉

Rick

wrote in message news:5449298@discussion.autodesk.com...
A lot of the people who read this newsgroup have been using this product and
have a vision of how it can transform their business.
We have now gotten to the point where it's getting deployed, as rabidly as
we can, to all of our Civil users.
It's not easy, it's expensive, But in our judgment it's worth it.
It's really tough if you are trying to do it yourself.
We didn't.
There are a lot of resources available out there.
Many blogs.
The Civil Community group.
If you play your cards right you can get access to Manchester.
They really are interested in what you do.
To James, Jason, Dana, Angel, Danny, Scott, Dan and Dave, AG, NickZ,Peter
Funk,Jon Rizzo, John Mayo, RickGraham, MMcCall, sinc, Laurie, Rad, Trevor,
All of your stuff has been listened to, granted some of is crap, but thanks
guys.
Get on board or get left at the Station

John Postlewait
IS Department
George Butler Associates, Inc.

[Anonymous]

I was willing, but I never heard back from the guy. I am currently working
on a rail subassembly that superelevates properly, but I'm doing that one in
my "spare time" (whatever that is). I'll let you know!




"Jason Hickey" wrote in message
news:5451303@discussion.autodesk.com...
Jon Rizzo wrote:
> I'm sensing a degree of sarcasm is that statement. 😉
>
> I attend quite a lot of training, actually. Autodesk University, to name
> one. I deal with way too many many evolving and emerging technologies to
> keep up with all of them on my own. In addition, Langan provides a
> significant amount of in-house training to share knowledge internally. We
> even host graduate level college courses in our training facility.
>

Yup, drank quite a few beers with Rizz in Vegas. Almost drank enough
to get him to code some complex rail stuff for a client of mine 😉


--
Jason Hickey

Civil 3D 2007, SP3
Dell Precision M70
2 GIG RAM, 256 MB nVidia Quadro FX Go1400
Intel Centrino 2 gHz Processor

www.civil3d.com

[Anonymous]

Problem
Exists
Between
Monitor
And
Back
Of
Head

I'm thinking there's a lot of territory betwixt the Keyboard and Chair that
doesn't have very much to do with Civil 3D. 😉

--
Don Reichle
"The only thing worse than training your staff, and having them leave is -
not training your staff, and having them stay." 😮
A reminder taken from Graphics Solution Providers' Calendar page
--------------------------------------------------------------------
!! Please discuss whatever we tell you with your SysMgr !!
!! They appreciate staying in the loop 🙂 !!

CivilSeries-2K4
Intel Xeon 3.2GHz 2GB RAM
XPPro 32bit SP2
Nvidia Quadro NVS 285 256MB

"The only Constant is Change".


wrote in message news:5450208@discussion.autodesk.com...
And here all this time... I thought you guys were posting good stuff...
didnt really seem like crap... hrmmm I guess you all can cover it very
well?!? muwhahah 😛

Dana - The acronym is PEBKAC - Problem exists between keyboard and chair!

JV

[Anonymous]

Was that a Freudian slip between rapidly and rabidly?

What John fails to mention is that I think the fun has only begun with our deployment and training efforts. I imagine that we will both be hanging out a lot in here for both moral and technical support. Thanks in Advance.