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Points and Layers

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11-09-2012 10:06 AM

Okay guys it has been awhile since I fireup Civil 3d.  I am trying to put some point on different layers so that they are easier to see and make break lines and such.  But the points only show up on the layer that were originally inported into, (V-NODE).

 

I created a group, (Toe of Mound),  point style, (Toe of Mound), a lable Style, (Toe of mound) and a layer (Toe of mound).

 

The points in the group "Toe of mound" have a Point Style "Toe of mound" and a Point Lable Style "Toe of mound"

 

The Point Style "Toe of mound" is set to display on the Layer "Toe of mound"

 

and the Lable Style "Toe of mound" is set to display on the Layer "Toe of mound"

 

But the points only show on the original layer "V-NODE"

 

How do I get them to show on the layers I want them to show on?

 

Thanks

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Re: Points and Layers

11-09-2012 10:28 AM in reply to: bhamilton

I ended up editing the points themselves, (from within the point group), and changing the layer via edit point.  

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Re: Points and Layers

11-09-2012 01:09 PM in reply to: bhamilton

You should be able to grab all the points with a window in the drawing and put them on the layer, same as any other object.


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Re: Points and Layers

11-09-2012 01:35 PM in reply to: bhamilton

You are dealing with Object layers, and component layers.

The layer the point gets created on is the object layer.

The layers you are referring to in the Point Style, and Point Label Style are the component layers.

 

If I understand the question correctly, I'd take a look at creating and using a Description Key Set

Include a "code" such as TOM (for top of mound).

Set the style you want to use, and the label style you want to use (note: if left unchecked or checked and set to default, then it will use the style of the point's active point group)

Then set the layer you want to use for TOM points.  This is the object layer.

 

I don't see what version of C3D you are using but I believe starting with 2011 you can "Apply desc keys to points"

And if new points, just make sure "Disable Description Keys = False" and make sure to use a description that is included in your description key set.

 

Also, I find it works best to set the Point Label Style layer to 0, and use the Point Style to set the Label layer.

 

-Bruce

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Re: Points and Layers

11-09-2012 03:31 PM in reply to: bhamilton

Optional to the use of layers is to put the points on one layer, but control point visibility by using point groups.

 

If you make a point group for TOP and want to isolate that, make a point group for OFF (or NoDisplay, Hide, Invisible, etc.) Include all points and set Point Style and Point Label Style to None. Then, right click on Point Groups on the Prospector tab, pick properties. Move points groups above or below the OFF group to make them display or hide. Above OFF will display and below OFF will hide.

 

This is an efficient way to isolate points without worrying about layers.

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BrianHailey
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Message 6 of 8 (265 Views)

Re: Points and Layers

11-10-2012 02:40 PM in reply to: tcorey

tcorey wrote:

Optional to the use of layers is to put the points on one layer, but control point visibility by using point groups.

 


I disagree. I don't think point groups should be thought of as an alternative to using layers, it's an additional method to control the display.

 

For example, I have point groups for each days worth of surveying but I only want to see the control points for day 2. Use the method you explained to only display the points from the Day 2 Survey point group and then use layers to display only the control points. Using just layers or just point groups, it would be very difficult to do this (you would end up with a ton of layers and/or point groups).

 

Just my thoughts.

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Re: Points and Layers

11-30-2012 10:39 AM in reply to: BrianHailey

I personally have found point groups to be able to handle any point display I've needed.   I always keep layer freeze thaw in my toolbox though just in case.  :smileywink:

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Message 8 of 8 (188 Views)

Re: Points and Layers

11-30-2012 12:19 PM in reply to: dgordon

I use both layers and point groups. I use point groups for temporary visibility needs as Brian Hailey described. I use layers for permanent visibility needs so that I don't find myself in a situation where everything is OFF through point groups but I need to see control points for an exhibit that has the original point drawing attached as an xref.

 

--Tommie

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