Pipe Networks

[Anonymous]

Is it better to have multiple pipe networks such as SS for each street names? Or just one pipe network for all SS. The reason Im asking is I created multiple SS networks for each street, but for end of SS pipe tieing into MH on other SS network I get an error. Is there a work around.

[Anonymous]

In 2006 you had the option to interconnect pipes and structures from different networks. 2007 requires them to be all from the same network in order to connect. Hopefully in the future there will be some type of a sub-network or branch organizational unit added back in ... 2008?

[Anonymous]

Thanks, glad I didnt do all the roads.

[Anonymous]

do all san as one network. they don't have to be connected to each other to
be a network. it works much better.

one for san

one for water

one for storm

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wrote in message news:5344291@discussion.autodesk.com...
Is it better to have multiple pipe networks such as SS for each street
names? Or just one pipe network for all SS. The reason Im asking is I
created multiple SS networks for each street, but for end of SS pipe tieing
into MH on other SS network I get an error. Is there a work around.

[Anonymous]

Thank, One last ?
I used our company template for SS network, but forgot to put the SS on our standard layer. Default color is white, I went thru and changed all the SS and MH's to our current layer, but when I go and add to the network it defaults back to the color white. Do I need to redo the SS network again.

[Anonymous]

change the layer in the style.

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wrote in message news:5345397@discussion.autodesk.com...
Thank, One last ?
I used our company template for SS network, but forgot to put the SS on our
standard layer. Default color is white, I went thru and changed all the SS
and MH's to our current layer, but when I go and add to the network it
defaults back to the color white. Do I need to redo the SS network again.

[Anonymous]

That works better? I liked the one network per street because all of the structures in that network would automatically reference the corridor surface for that street. Now I get to individually assign structures to a reference surface. Big productivity gain there!

[Anonymous]

Ok, so now I want to view the SS network in one of my street profiles, well I select the items that are on that road and when it draws the material in the profile I get the whole SS network. What the hell am I doing wrong. I selected each item and set the path to the current road alignment and egs surface.

[Anonymous]

It sounds like you selected the 'entire network', which is an option, instead of just the individual pipes and structures you need for that profile.

[Anonymous]

Just trying to figure out, thanks for the help. Is there a way to adjust the location of SS MH's? In my SS pipe network editer, it has the sta: faded in grey, can not edit it.

[Civil3DReminders_com]

Select the manhole and move it. Make the base point the center of the manhole, then use the transparent command for station offset to move it to the station you want. The typed command is for transparent station offset is 'so, it will ask you for the alignment then type the station then it will ask for the offset.

[Anonymous]

ok...

here is something that might help...

1) I make one large corridor, hence one surface. But I actually make a
Composite FG that is my road surface + other stuff. So every pipe, be it
inside the ROW or offsite can target that surface. So even if your roads
are their own surfaces, make a composite and target that one.

2) you can use the prospector to batch pick many pipes/structures and change
their target surface and alignment in one shot.

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Dana Breig Probert, E.I.T.
Engineered Efficiency, Inc.
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wrote in message news:5345759@discussion.autodesk.com...
That works better? I liked the one network per street because all of the
structures in that network would automatically reference the corridor
surface for that street. Now I get to individually assign structures to a
reference surface. Big productivity gain there!

[Anonymous]

I see what your saying. Yes, it would work well that way, but the network grouping of the pipes in the pipe reports are also helpful. Especially if you have hundreds of pipes and structures.

A little off-topic, but who else has noticed the 'minimum cover is exceeded' error in the status? Or the 'minimum slope is exceeded' sounds like it should be a good thing.

[Anonymous]

Im new at this, I have 10 roads with each of there corridor surface. LIke you say its better to make one large corridor surface, if so how do I do that? Also you state in your comment (2) to use the prospector tab to pick many pipes. Could you give me step by step on this, Im missing this somehow. Thanks.

[Anonymous]

Hi,
Evidently you, like I, seem to not have investigated what that big "+" sign
on the Corridor editor is for.....I spent a week creating corridors for my
roads before I saw Dana's pics that she posted to Civil3D.com and saw that
you can have multiple alignments in 1 corridor.......took me another day to
get them all in 1 corridor, but my model sure looks a lot better!

The pipes in a network are shown in the prospector. Select while holding the
CTRL key down to select multiple pipes, then right-click the column header
that you wich to revise for those pipes.

HTH,
Jeff

wrote in message news:5346831@discussion.autodesk.com...
Im new at this, I have 10 roads with each of there corridor surface. LIke
you say its better to make one large corridor surface, if so how do I do
that? Also you state in your comment (2) to use the prospector tab to pick
many pipes. Could you give me step by step on this, Im missing this
somehow. Thanks.

[Anonymous]

I make many baselines in one corridor and hence build one surface.

Alternatively, (but this is messy because sometimes when roads come together
if they are not the same corridor they dont marry nicely and you wind up
with lots of boundaries and stupidity) copy your EG surface using autocad
copy, then paste the corridor surfaces into the copy of EG. if they change,
this new composite FG changes, too.

Regardless of how you get the corridor surface, make a composite FG.

Usually this is how I do that:

1) autocadcopy EG
2) rename that copy to composite FG
3) make isolated mini surfaces for design elements- like a corridor surface,
pond surfaces, grading pads surfaces, etc
4) paste those mini surfaces into the composite
5) use the composite as your target for structures

that composite doesnt have to be complete or perfect- in fact, often it is
just a copy of my EG when I first start. as you add more, that surface will
update.

Here are some posts and pictures that might help you.

http://www.civil3d.com/index.php/2006/09/corridor-daze/
http://www.civil3d.com/index.php/2006/09/increasing-drawing-performance-when-working-with-large-corridors/
http://www.civil3d.com/index.php/2006/09/a-civil-3d-portfolio/
http://www.flickr.com/photos/civil3diva/sets/72157594291966137/

For the selection of many pipes at once, I dont have captures handy, but
anything in prospector can be selected in a group. See the first entry in
this post called "The Batch Style Swap" it also works for batch swapping
alignment and surfaces for pipes/structures
http://civil3drocks.blogspot.com/2006/07/things-that-even-civil-3d-super-heros.html
--
Dana Breig Probert, E.I.T.
Engineered Efficiency, Inc.
www.civil3d.com
www.eng-eff.com
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Civil 3D 2007 SP2
AMD Athlon 64 X2 Dual Core 2.01 GHz
2GB RAM, 256 MB ATI FireGL V5200
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[Anonymous]

Back to the original question and the response of making them all one
network. How does this work with references? We have over half of a city
that we are working on so we have to break it up into parts. If all of the
pipes in the different drawings are on same name network, will the pipe
references work?
Thanks,
Chris


"Dana Breig Probert" wrote in message
news:5346839@discussion.autodesk.com...
I make many baselines in one corridor and hence build one surface.

Alternatively, (but this is messy because sometimes when roads come together
if they are not the same corridor they dont marry nicely and you wind up
with lots of boundaries and stupidity) copy your EG surface using autocad
copy, then paste the corridor surfaces into the copy of EG. if they change,
this new composite FG changes, too.

Regardless of how you get the corridor surface, make a composite FG.

Usually this is how I do that:

1) autocadcopy EG
2) rename that copy to composite FG
3) make isolated mini surfaces for design elements- like a corridor surface,
pond surfaces, grading pads surfaces, etc
4) paste those mini surfaces into the composite
5) use the composite as your target for structures

that composite doesnt have to be complete or perfect- in fact, often it is
just a copy of my EG when I first start. as you add more, that surface will
update.

Here are some posts and pictures that might help you.

http://www.civil3d.com/index.php/2006/09/corridor-daze/
http://www.civil3d.com/index.php/2006/09/increasing-drawing-performance-when-working-with-large-corridors/
http://www.civil3d.com/index.php/2006/09/a-civil-3d-portfolio/
http://www.flickr.com/photos/civil3diva/sets/72157594291966137/

For the selection of many pipes at once, I dont have captures handy, but
anything in prospector can be selected in a group. See the first entry in
this post called "The Batch Style Swap" it also works for batch swapping
alignment and surfaces for pipes/structures
http://civil3drocks.blogspot.com/2006/07/things-that-even-civil-3d-super-heros.html
--
Dana Breig Probert, E.I.T.
Engineered Efficiency, Inc.
www.civil3d.com
www.eng-eff.com
----------------------------------
Civil 3D 2007 SP2
AMD Athlon 64 X2 Dual Core 2.01 GHz
2GB RAM, 256 MB ATI FireGL V5200
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