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StumpMasterFlex
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Pipe Labels display 180 and mirror image

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11-19-2013 04:33 PM

I created a project from scratch.  I created some pipe labels showing our companies arrow block in label the and set it to Grade Check.  It worked great.  It point in the downward slope and at the end of each pipe.  No issue.  I copied the label style to an existing project I inherited and did not set up.  In that project, certain variables for pipe and structure labels display  backwards or mirror image.   I can't figure it out.  I copy those  same structure and pipe labels to a new project and they display fine.

 

Also when I create a profile view the numbers for my vertical elevations in the profile are backwards (but plot fine).  The labels mentioned above do not plot fine.  I have also copied items from another project and they came in mirror image including the text.

 

Any ideas?  

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Michael,
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Re: Pipe Labels display 180 and mirror image

11-20-2013 05:07 AM in reply to: StumpMasterFlex

On the screen shot North is to the top of the screen).  You can see that MH 2's SE invert (83.76) is lower than MH104 NW Inv (83.91).  And MH 104's E invert (84.19) is lower than CB/MH 1's west invert (84.30).  Yet the arrows are still displaying in the wrong direction.  Other things are displaying 180 or mirror image.  I have also displayed the label definition for label in question.  Any help would be appreciated.

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Michael,
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Re: Pipe Labels display 180 and mirror image

11-20-2013 05:26 AM in reply to: StumpMasterFlex

Also, the project's that display the arrows and labels incorrectly were created in AutoCAD 2010 or less.  Then opened and worked in Civil 3D 2013.   The projects that display the arrows and labels correctly were created solely in 2013.  A colleague said that a macro error message came up when try to edit the label arrows?

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Michael,
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Civil 3D 2013
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troma
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Re: Pipe Labels display 180 and mirror image

11-21-2013 07:21 AM in reply to: StumpMasterFlex
Seeing mirror imaged text makes me think: are you in bottom view, looking up at the project instead of being in top view looking down?


Credit where credit is due! Give kudos or accept as solution whenever you can.

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Jeff_M
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Re: Pipe Labels display 180 and mirror image

11-21-2013 09:22 AM in reply to: StumpMasterFlex
Make sure your pipe flow directions are correct. Just because your inverts are correct does not mean the flow direction is defined as uphill to downhill....
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Re: Pipe Labels display 180 and mirror image

11-22-2013 04:58 AM in reply to: Jeff_M

Thanks Jeff I tried that this morning.  I forgot about pipe direction so thanks for the input.  Unfortunately, that did not fix the issue.  It did switch the direction but the arrows were facing upstream when i defined upstream being the opposite direction.

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Michael,
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Civil 3D 2013
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Re: Pipe Labels display 180 and mirror image

11-22-2013 05:08 AM in reply to: troma

Thanks Troma, good idea but my view is currently set to top.

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Michael,
Draftsperson (Exploration Technologist)
Civil 3D 2013
Windows 8
Intel(R) Core(TM) i7-4770 CPU @ 3.40GHz
32. GB
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Re: Pipe Labels display 180 and mirror image

11-22-2013 05:47 AM in reply to: StumpMasterFlex

Can you post your drawing? If so, and it's too big to attach here, you might consider using Dropbox and posting the link to it.

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Re: Pipe Labels display 180 and mirror image

11-25-2013 10:40 AM in reply to: Jeff_M

Here it is.  In other drawings these issue's do not occur with these label types.  But in this drawing they do.  I can't figure out why.

1/ The blocks we posted for our flow arrows are not displaying in the downward slope.  Label type in question "PR Plan Storm Detailed"

2/ In the profile you will notice the structure labels are pointing down and not up.  Label type in question "FUT Prof STM TOP CL"  I drew in cyan how I want it to look.

 

Thank you for any help you can give.

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Michael,
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Civil 3D 2013
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Re: Pipe Labels display 180 and mirror image

11-25-2013 12:02 PM in reply to: StumpMasterFlex

You have both the FlowDirectionArrow and the Block component set to rotate by the GradeCheck Expression. Set the one for the flow direction to 0 and it straigtens things out. Also, the expression is backwards, use less than 0 instead of greater than. Note that some will still look incorrect, but that is due to some of the inverts look like they need to be adjusted.

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