I thought it was a bit quaint that Autodesk release autocad versions a half a year in advance... but now I understand the logic. Take 2014 for example - it's not actually meant to be used until 2014. If you do use it, then you do so at your own peril. If you do run into a problem - it won't be fixed until 2014. Looking forward to that hotfix? Wait for 2014. If you want all the features to work then buy a new calendar and start marking off the days...
If you're using civil 3d, then you're likely on subscription. And in that case, you can be up to 3 releases behind. You should just stay 3 releases behind and you'll always have the clean working version you want. Why complain and about things you can't control?
Clearly, you feel strongly about this. Why use the software? NO ONE IS MAKING you, right? Except maybe your boss (if you're not the boss). If you are the boss, then use anything else. Why not break out the ink and mylar and call it a day?
I know those sound sarcastic, but i am serious. Don't feel like you have to use what everyone else is using. Maybe it's not the best tool for you. I don't know your business nor your skill set, only you do.
I hope you find peace....
Mick, as you can see now he is a Autodesk Reseller. They come from a different place then us Users, and have different and obvious business goals.
I would like to make a motion to the Discussion Administrator that the Resellers have their own Discussion Group, and Users could visit them there if they choose to. The current situation is realy a conflict of interest issue.
It needs to be made clear to the Users when they are interacting with the Resellers, and the Users should have a choice if they want to interact with a Reseller.
They also have an inclination to give poor advice to new users, as has been pointed out many times.
My Reseller during our initial training after purchase, advised the class not to use the Interesection Wizard, and actually said to the class it was a "marketing gimmick" from Autodesk. Then he proceeded to demonstrate how to contruct an interesection with feature lines. This was a simple county road 'T" intersection with no curb and gutter.
That just didn't ring true to me as I sat there in that class, so I proceeded to train myself in the use of the Intersection Wizard. I now know that classroom example can be more efficiently handled with the Intersection Wizard.
Fred, I see where you're coming from but personally I'm happy to mix it with the resellers. I don't know who they all are, but I'm sure they contribute valuable discussion. All the discussion here is well worth reading in my opinion.
Kevin, I also understand what you're saying, but rather than just make excuses for Autodesk and offer advice to not buy the product, I'd rather that resellers took an active role in promoting key issues to Autodesk and working on a resolution. In my situation, I trialled 2012, then bought 2013 based on the advertised feature set. I clearly went through my requirements with my reseller at the time. I use surfaces a lot. One key thing that was broken in 2013 compared to 2012 was surface transparency. I was promised by Autodesk that it would be fixed in 2014 (only took a year). It was, but now I find out that other things are broken. Sure I could use 2012, but that wasn't what I purchased. I could use 2013 and put up with the glitches (most of which I think I have a work around for now), or I could keep paying subscription and HOPE that 2014 will get fixed soon. I don't care about new features, I just want the features I bought fixed properly.
As for not using C3D. Well, I did a lot of research prior to purchase and determined that it had the feature set that best fitted my work. So that decision has been made. I've invested close to $10K in the software, countless hours in training and head scratching. Got a heap of drawings and templates involved and my clients like my outputs. I'm the boss, no one dictates what I use - I just haven't got unlimited funds and countless hours to swap software and stuff around.
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