Multiply Owned object handle error revisited

[Anonymous]

Hi all,

I was hoping that SP3's improved AUDIT would have taken care of this nagging
problem, but alas nope. I have 6 of these that pop up every time I do a
QSAVE. They are 2D1B, 2D1C, 744D, 744F, 7450 and 7451. These are in my
template file and 'corupt' every drawing that I make with my master
template.

I have read and re-read all DG stuff regarding this error and nothing
suggested seemed to help. I *really* do not wish to start over in my
template file, but until this problem is resolved, I will not be rolling out
Civil 3D to the users. Any other suggestions or if I could possibly send my
template file to someone who can better analyze what the problem(s) might be
would be GREATLY appreciated.

Documentation on what these handles are would be beneficial too.

Thanks,

Rick

C3D 2007 SP2
Dell DuoCore 2.66GHz 2GB Ram 256 Dual DVI Dual monitors! 🙂

[Anonymous]

Those errors tend to result from styles that have become a problem. I would
try using the prospector interface and dragging and dropping some styles
over, perhaps feature by feature(Points, surfaces etc) Shouldnt take too
long to identify which area the problem styles are in.
Nick
wrote in message news:5386015@discussion.autodesk.com...
Hi all,

I was hoping that SP3's improved AUDIT would have taken care of this nagging
problem, but alas nope. I have 6 of these that pop up every time I do a
QSAVE. They are 2D1B, 2D1C, 744D, 744F, 7450 and 7451. These are in my
template file and 'corupt' every drawing that I make with my master
template.

I have read and re-read all DG stuff regarding this error and nothing
suggested seemed to help. I *really* do not wish to start over in my
template file, but until this problem is resolved, I will not be rolling out
Civil 3D to the users. Any other suggestions or if I could possibly send my
template file to someone who can better analyze what the problem(s) might be
would be GREATLY appreciated.

Documentation on what these handles are would be beneficial too.

Thanks,

Rick

C3D 2007 SP2
Dell DuoCore 2.66GHz 2GB Ram 256 Dual DVI Dual monitors! 🙂

[Anonymous]

Nick,

Okay, I've done this and got a drawing template that say it has no multiply
owned object handles anymore. I verify this by doing some little stuff and
then doing a QSAVE. So I save and close the drawing, exit Civil3D and then
reopen it to work some more on the template. I make a minor cosmetic change
to the template draiwng and do a QSAVE - the stupid errors are back - all 6
of them!

Grrrr!

Rick

"Nick Zeeben" wrote in message
news:5386082@discussion.autodesk.com...
Those errors tend to result from styles that have become a problem. I would
try using the prospector interface and dragging and dropping some styles
over, perhaps feature by feature(Points, surfaces etc) Shouldnt take too
long to identify which area the problem styles are in.
Nick
wrote in message news:5386015@discussion.autodesk.com...
Hi all,

I was hoping that SP3's improved AUDIT would have taken care of this nagging
problem, but alas nope. I have 6 of these that pop up every time I do a
QSAVE. They are 2D1B, 2D1C, 744D, 744F, 7450 and 7451. These are in my
template file and 'corupt' every drawing that I make with my master
template.

I have read and re-read all DG stuff regarding this error and nothing
suggested seemed to help. I *really* do not wish to start over in my
template file, but until this problem is resolved, I will not be rolling out
Civil 3D to the users. Any other suggestions or if I could possibly send my
template file to someone who can better analyze what the problem(s) might be
would be GREATLY appreciated.

Documentation on what these handles are would be beneficial too.

Thanks,

Rick

C3D 2007 SP2
Dell DuoCore 2.66GHz 2GB Ram 256 Dual DVI Dual monitors! 🙂

[tscheevel]

This may or may not be related. Yesterday there was a post about audit turning up 6 errors in a new drawing from the imperial NCS Extended template.
I ran audit on a drawing of mine after installing SP3 and turned up 6 errors.
This morning I experimented with new drawings from 6 templates. Audit was then run on clean drawings.
The results were as follows:
Autodesk Civil3D (Imperial) NCS Base: No Errors
Autodesk Civil3D (Imperial) NCS Classic : 6 Errors
Autodesk Civil3D (Imperial) NCS Extended: 6 Errors
Autodesk Civil3D (Metric) NCS Base: No Errors
Autodesk Civil3D (Metric) Ncs Classic: 14 Errors
Autodesk Civil3D (Metric) NCS Extended: 14 Errors
I don't know what it means. I wonder if others are seeing this.

[peter_thomson]

I have not noted errors in detail, but I too have been experiencing many of these "Multiply owned handle" errors.

They seemed to affect pipe band styles in that if I edited a style, the edits would stick to a previously created style as well....that is, existing pipe band styles became affected by changes or additions to new styles.
I ended up re-building my template and got rid of the problem now, but I suspect it is only a momentary reprieve.



Peter.
(C3D 2007 SP2..until I get time to load SP3!)

[Anonymous]

rick can I get a copy of the drawing with no errors and then a documented
set of minor problems that cause the problem to occur again.

first . last @ autodesk

Thanks
Nick
wrote in message news:5389171@discussion.autodesk.com...
Nick,

Okay, I've done this and got a drawing template that say it has no multiply
owned object handles anymore. I verify this by doing some little stuff and
then doing a QSAVE. So I save and close the drawing, exit Civil3D and then
reopen it to work some more on the template. I make a minor cosmetic change
to the template draiwng and do a QSAVE - the stupid errors are back - all 6
of them!

Grrrr!

Rick

"Nick Zeeben" wrote in message
news:5386082@discussion.autodesk.com...
Those errors tend to result from styles that have become a problem. I would
try using the prospector interface and dragging and dropping some styles
over, perhaps feature by feature(Points, surfaces etc) Shouldnt take too
long to identify which area the problem styles are in.
Nick
wrote in message news:5386015@discussion.autodesk.com...
Hi all,

I was hoping that SP3's improved AUDIT would have taken care of this nagging
problem, but alas nope. I have 6 of these that pop up every time I do a
QSAVE. They are 2D1B, 2D1C, 744D, 744F, 7450 and 7451. These are in my
template file and 'corupt' every drawing that I make with my master
template.

I have read and re-read all DG stuff regarding this error and nothing
suggested seemed to help. I *really* do not wish to start over in my
template file, but until this problem is resolved, I will not be rolling out
Civil 3D to the users. Any other suggestions or if I could possibly send my
template file to someone who can better analyze what the problem(s) might be
would be GREATLY appreciated.

Documentation on what these handles are would be beneficial too.

Thanks,

Rick

C3D 2007 SP2
Dell DuoCore 2.66GHz 2GB Ram 256 Dual DVI Dual monitors! 🙂

[Anonymous]

Nick,

Have you figured out this one yet?
--
Lisa Pohlmeyer
DC CADD - Austin, TX
Civil 3D 07 SP3
Intel P4 2.0, 2Gb RAM
Nvidia Quadro Fx Go1400 256Mb


Nick Zeeben wrote:
> rick can I get a copy of the drawing with no errors and then a documented
> set of minor problems that cause the problem to occur again.
>
> first . last @ autodesk
>
> Thanks
> Nick
> wrote in message news:5389171@discussion.autodesk.com...
> Nick,
>
> Okay, I've done this and got a drawing template that say it has no multiply
> owned object handles anymore. I verify this by doing some little stuff and
> then doing a QSAVE. So I save and close the drawing, exit Civil3D and then
> reopen it to work some more on the template. I make a minor cosmetic change
> to the template draiwng and do a QSAVE - the stupid errors are back - all 6
> of them!
>
> Grrrr!
>
> Rick
>
> "Nick Zeeben" wrote in message
> news:5386082@discussion.autodesk.com...
> Those errors tend to result from styles that have become a problem. I would
> try using the prospector interface and dragging and dropping some styles
> over, perhaps feature by feature(Points, surfaces etc) Shouldnt take too
> long to identify which area the problem styles are in.
> Nick
> wrote in message news:5386015@discussion.autodesk.com...
> Hi all,
>
> I was hoping that SP3's improved AUDIT would have taken care of this nagging
> problem, but alas nope. I have 6 of these that pop up every time I do a
> QSAVE. They are 2D1B, 2D1C, 744D, 744F, 7450 and 7451. These are in my
> template file and 'corupt' every drawing that I make with my master
> template.
>
> I have read and re-read all DG stuff regarding this error and nothing
> suggested seemed to help. I *really* do not wish to start over in my
> template file, but until this problem is resolved, I will not be rolling out
> Civil 3D to the users. Any other suggestions or if I could possibly send my
> template file to someone who can better analyze what the problem(s) might be
> would be GREATLY appreciated.
>
> Documentation on what these handles are would be beneficial too.
>
> Thanks,
>
> Rick
>
> C3D 2007 SP2
> Dell DuoCore 2.66GHz 2GB Ram 256 Dual DVI Dual monitors! 🙂

[Anonymous]

Never got a drawing. So no.

"Lisa Pohlmeyer" wrote in message
news:5417973@discussion.autodesk.com...
Nick,

Have you figured out this one yet?
--
Lisa Pohlmeyer
DC CADD - Austin, TX
Civil 3D 07 SP3
Intel P4 2.0, 2Gb RAM
Nvidia Quadro Fx Go1400 256Mb


Nick Zeeben wrote:
> rick can I get a copy of the drawing with no errors and then a documented
> set of minor problems that cause the problem to occur again.
>
> first . last @ autodesk
>
> Thanks
> Nick
> wrote in message news:5389171@discussion.autodesk.com...
> Nick,
>
> Okay, I've done this and got a drawing template that say it has no
> multiply
> owned object handles anymore. I verify this by doing some little stuff and
> then doing a QSAVE. So I save and close the drawing, exit Civil3D and then
> reopen it to work some more on the template. I make a minor cosmetic
> change
> to the template draiwng and do a QSAVE - the stupid errors are back - all
> 6
> of them!
>
> Grrrr!
>
> Rick
>
> "Nick Zeeben" wrote in message
> news:5386082@discussion.autodesk.com...
> Those errors tend to result from styles that have become a problem. I
> would
> try using the prospector interface and dragging and dropping some styles
> over, perhaps feature by feature(Points, surfaces etc) Shouldnt take too
> long to identify which area the problem styles are in.
> Nick
> wrote in message news:5386015@discussion.autodesk.com...
> Hi all,
>
> I was hoping that SP3's improved AUDIT would have taken care of this
> nagging
> problem, but alas nope. I have 6 of these that pop up every time I do a
> QSAVE. They are 2D1B, 2D1C, 744D, 744F, 7450 and 7451. These are in my
> template file and 'corupt' every drawing that I make with my master
> template.
>
> I have read and re-read all DG stuff regarding this error and nothing
> suggested seemed to help. I *really* do not wish to start over in my
> template file, but until this problem is resolved, I will not be rolling
> out
> Civil 3D to the users. Any other suggestions or if I could possibly send
> my
> template file to someone who can better analyze what the problem(s) might
> be
> would be GREATLY appreciated.
>
> Documentation on what these handles are would be beneficial too.
>
> Thanks,
>
> Rick
>
> C3D 2007 SP2
> Dell DuoCore 2.66GHz 2GB Ram 256 Dual DVI Dual monitors! 🙂

[wundrlik]

I found an easy way to get rid of them from your drawings.

in the command line (after you have done an Audit and qsave) type in

(entdel (handent "handle returned from qsave"))

That will allow you to delete the objects from the dwg and then there are no more errors.

Ryan A Wunderlich

[Anonymous]

I like the way you think, Ryan, but that doesn't work for me. My multiply-owned handles were (before I've just spent the last few hours creating a new one) in my drawing template (DWT). I think mostly they were in the Profile View bands. And this is the output I got when I tried you trick on the old DWT:

Command:
Command:
Command: _qsave
*Warning* Multiply owned object, handle "DEB4"

*Warning* Multiply owned object, handle "DEB5"

*Warning* Multiply owned object, handle "DEB6"

*Warning* Multiply owned object, handle "DEAF"

*Warning* Multiply owned object, handle "DEB0"

*Warning* Multiply owned object, handle "DEB1"

*Warning* Multiply owned object, handle "DEB2"

Command: (entdel (handent "handle returned from qsave"))
; error: bad argument type: lentityp nil

I don't know what this means from a LISP point of view, but I thought you'd be interested.

Trevor

[Anonymous]

Trevor, you might try it again but substitute this part "handle returned
from qsave" with the actual handles....i.e. "DEB2"

Although, I could of sworn I tried this and it didn't work. I no longer have
a drawing with this issue to test it again.

Jeff

wrote in message news:5441877@discussion.autodesk.com...

Command: (entdel (handent "handle returned from qsave"))
; error: bad argument type: lentityp nil

[Anonymous]

Well I'll be blowed! It worked! Gosh, I wish I'd known about that yesterday, would've saved me a stack of time... still, might save some time today.

Thanks Ryan, Jeff! Very much appreciated!

Trevor

[mikeshick]

I have had all the above happening, too. Thanks for the help getting rid of the errors.

I still have corrupted styles in my drawing (which apparently is not connected to the corrupted handles). Do you know how to remove corrupted styles. I cannot use the styles, and when I try to remove them, my drawing crashes. This occurs at my template level.

[Sinc]

I have noticed problems editing a template, where C3D crashes. The problems only crop up when editing certain things in DWT files.

It seems to be OK if you create a new DWG based on your template, make your changes in the DWG file, then use SAVE AS to save the DWG file as a DWT, overwriting your initial template.

[Sinc]

I think I may have also run into the same thing you are describing.

I had a set of styles setup as parent-child-grandchild. At one point, they all had three components, but at some point one of the components completely disappeared from the middle style (I think when I was deleting a Multiply Owned Handle, as stated in this thread).

It was a very annoying error, because I could not delete or change ANY of the three - C3D would crash every time I tried.

I finally fixed the problem by opening an empty drawing (not created from this template), and recreating the three styles in the new drawing, with the same names as before. Then I dragged-and-dropped them into my template, overwriting the "bad" styles, and it worked.

[Nrhoads]

I'm not a lisp guru but i did make a short & sweet lisp routine for the above mentioned suggestion. If someone wants to make it better, please make the changes and post it back here!!!