Link to see Civil 3d Highways from USA?

[iflorintheo]

Hi everyone,

I know state transpotation deparments are showing designs online in tiff or pdf.

In my country I can download all the public infrastructure designs from the autorities in pdf.

Can you give me a link to see Civil 3d highway designs made in USA ? if there's any ...

thanks

[wfberry · Accepted solution]

T.F.:

This will get you to my home state of Kentucky:

http://maps.kytc.ky.gov/ProjectArchives/

Select a City on the left.  I suggest our largest City -> Louisville

Once you get there, select the round Blue Circle with an "i" (Identify) and click one of the roads.

Eventually you will get to a point to select a DOCUMENT.

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[iflorintheo]

Wow, that's great but most of them are archives from the 80's.

Do you know any particularly highway made in Civil 3D recently ?

[wfberry]

You will have to search for State Highway Departments.  There are only about about 3 that use Civil 3D, Minnesota being one.

[Jay_B]

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@wfberry wrote:

You will have to search for State Highway Departments.  There are only about about 3 that use Civil 3D, Minnesota being one.

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Minnesota is strictly Geopak.

Wisconsin, Massachusetts and Florida use Civil  3d and I heard California is starting to use C3d.

I don't do DOT work but a quick Google search brings up BIDX which appears to be a service to bid on projects for multiple DOT's. There is a fee to access this site (which you may find  common to access current construction plans online).

[michael.robertson]

Florida has no completed Civil3D projects at this time, C3D was just approved for production use this Spring.

[iflorintheo]

atm Wisconsin, Massachusetts and Florida have no archives with their project designs, or at least i couldn't find any link for public use.

[mike.barkasi]

Could you please forward me any you come across..

As Mentioned C3D replaced Caice in Wisconsin and CA.Florida, used Caice for Survey. I believe after several years (and who knows the cost) Autodesk and supporting consultants may have finally matched MicroStation and GEOPAK standards.

I have yet to see a project designed Start to finish, though I have seen several InRoads/GEOPAK projects (or portions of) redesigned using C3D. Most consultantants continue to use Bentley products where major infrastructure is involved.

Redesigning portions of actually projects (case studies) is considerably easier as true engineering decissions have already been made.

Regards

Mike Barkasi

Bentley Civil

[Hammer.john.j]

Connecticut and Massachusetts have A LOT of them....  Just because any give state DOT uses a software platform, doesn't mean the work is executed using it... I've read and continue to hear about Bentley's affiliation with DOT's... The truth is, that DOT's require submissions to be in Bentley's format.  Many people will tell you they'd wrather work in a format and export to another than work with another set of operations.  You could say the visa-versa, I'm sure plenty of people work in Bentley and reformat to Autodesk.

The Big Dig in Boston?  AutoCAD, MassDOT=Civil 3d so I'd look at Massachusetts as a source.

http://www.aplussurvey.com/index.php/our-services/121-bridges-and-highways.html

edit more links:

http://www.cadpilot.com/blogs/Jump_On_C3D/get-the-jump-on-civil-3d/2011/10/06/I_Survey_Civil_3D_and_...

go here:  http://www.massdot.state.ma.us/

then click on "projects"  that should do it.

[mike.barkasi]

To respond to "Extreme 03"

Rest assured, the majority of large infrastructure projects work with and colaborate on Bentley Systems products. This is Because this is their focus (AEC)...

Are you saying Civil 3d completed the "Big Dig" in Boston??  I find that hard to believe... perhaps AutoCAD and Caice...

whatever AutoDesk software that was used in the process, would not qualify the project as a success...

See the exerpts below (wikipedia) concerning the project .

The Big Dig was the most expensive highway project in the U.S. and was plagued by escalating costs, scheduling overruns, leaks, design flaws, charges of poor execution and use of substandard materials, criminal arrests,[2][3] and even one death.[4] The project was originally scheduled to be completed in 1998[5] at an estimated cost of $2.8 billion (in 1982 dollars, US$6.0 billion adjusted for inflation as of 2006[update]).[6] However, the project was completed only in December 2007, at a cost of over $14.6 billion ($8.08 billion in 1982 dollars, meaning a cost overrun of about 190%)[6] as of 2006[update].[7] The Boston Globe estimated that the project will ultimately cost $22 billion, including interest, and that it will not be paid off until 2038.[8] As a result of the deaths, leaks, and other design flaws, the consortium that oversaw the project agreed to pay $407 million in restitution, and several smaller companies agreed to pay a combined sum of approximately $51 million

[Hammer.john.j]

Mike, what I'm doing is giving links for the O.P., because he was looking for locations to find projects that used civil 3d.  MassDOT uses Civil 3D and my response gives directions on how to see projects.

[iflorintheo]

on the MassDOT website I could find only prices for projects and all kind of other issues but not the actual DESIGN. I'm speaking about a design which you can read start to finish because I would like to see the construction details and the projects actual body (specifications, where they go, construction details, profiles, plans, sections etc)

[Hammer.john.j]

That is all public information, but not neccessarily on the internet.  It appears that you're looking from Bucharest, RO, E.U.... some of the information is likely to be subject to some security concerns so calling and asking for plans of the big dig is probably not a could idea... 

I suspect that if you DID call MassDOT and ask them about one of those specific projects, depending on what you want they can probably get you the information or put in a Freedom of Information (FOI) request... but I'd call there first to see what they can give you.... the list of projects is a starting point.

hope this is helpful for you.

[michael.robertson]

I'm not sure but I'm assuming it is the same for all states (I work for FDOT). Due to homeland security we can not release any plans that contain anytype of structural design information (bridges, tunnels, etc) to the general public. Not structural components of the plans may be requested through proper channels.

[Hammer.john.j]

That sounds about right...

[iflorintheo]

In my country the project designs are public data. I would expect the same from USA. On the other hand the guy which gave me a link with wicounsin DOT had all the archived projects available on FTP and download.

I'm looking to read them for private issues. I must interpret american highway designs in the future and I would like a starting point. So, calling the MassDOT for a private issue isn't going to work. Another example is that our designs are in full color so that they could be easily read. I know  that american designs are all in B&W and this is contributing on their reading hardness. Thats why on the construction sites expecialy outside USA, there are people employed with interpreting abilities.

[iflorintheo]

Yeah it seems right to hide from the public the bridges which are having structural components that can help terrorists.

[Hammer.john.j]

I'd dispute the legibility of a high quality black and white plan.... by high quality i mean one with a hierarchy of lineweights, hatching, and use of grays with linesmerge such that the plan has a depth and tells a story. (EDIT:  My dispute is an opinion however )

unfortunately, the ability to obtain this information directly from the internet is low... but every now and then Google is good to you lol... see below because there are Towns all across the U.S. that provide plans.... I found 1 town in CT that does this and here is a link to a set of their plans:

http://engineering.townofmanchester.org/index.cfm/projects/

actual project plans

http://engineering.townofmanchester.org/engineering/assets/File/76-212PLANS.pdf

you'll notice all of the plotstamps have .dwg extensions, thats how i confirmed they were autodesk reproducables... hard to say if they actually used cad to design, but the cross sections look like C3D cross sections grids... hard to say for sure though.

[michael.robertson]

Since 911 nothing is the same here. It might be public information in Europe but it is not here in the U.S.

[iflorintheo]

Oh I can actualy tell you're wrong. I've found tons of projects in Bentley but I don't care about them. And they even have bridges available. It seems USA is the country of Bentley so far. Not a single Civil 3D highway. Tons of Land Development projects in Civil 3D but no Highway.

About Town of manchester... on the page 8-9-10 it reminds me why I hate B&W projects so much. Imagine I'm suposed to understand those sheets.