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Layer states will not hold

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Message 1 of 38
Joe-Bouza
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Layer states will not hold

in 2012 I saved a layerstate and it shows in the dialog but if I change the stet to another and go back none of the settings are held. Is this a known problem?

Thank you

Joseph D. Bouza, P.E. (one of 'THOSE' People)

HP Z210 Workstation
Intel Xeon CPU E31240 @ 3.30 Hz
12 GB Ram


Note: Its all Resistentialism, so keep calm and carry on

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Message 2 of 38
AllenJessup
in reply to: Joe-Bouza

Joe,

 

Do you have the "Apply properties as viewport overrides" box checked?

 

Allen



Allen Jessup
Engineering Specialist / CAD Manager

Message 3 of 38
Joe-Bouza
in reply to: AllenJessup

Hi Allen
Yes it is checked
Thank you

Joseph D. Bouza, P.E. (one of 'THOSE' People)

HP Z210 Workstation
Intel Xeon CPU E31240 @ 3.30 Hz
12 GB Ram


Note: Its all Resistentialism, so keep calm and carry on

64 Bit Win10 OS
Message 4 of 38
AllenJessup
in reply to: Joe-Bouza

Are you trying to apply the layer state as viewport overrides? If so. You'd have to be in an active viewport for them to take effect.

 

I just want to make sure that's what you're doing.

 

Allen



Allen Jessup
Engineering Specialist / CAD Manager

Message 5 of 38
Joe-Bouza
in reply to: AllenJessup

Specifically, no I am not trying to set vport layers, but I tried both checked and unchecked. All I am doing setting my global freeze thaw >> add a new layer state>> name it>> close>> reset the other state>> then try to reset the new one and nothing is frozen?

 

Also, Did have the overide check box hose me? all the lines are blue like I have a vport saved.

Thank you

Joseph D. Bouza, P.E. (one of 'THOSE' People)

HP Z210 Workstation
Intel Xeon CPU E31240 @ 3.30 Hz
12 GB Ram


Note: Its all Resistentialism, so keep calm and carry on

64 Bit Win10 OS
Message 6 of 38
AllenJessup
in reply to: Joe-Bouza

I believe that's it. If you have that box checked when you save the Layer State. That's the way it will be treated. At least I think so. I don't use viewport overrides much myself.

 

Allen



Allen Jessup
Engineering Specialist / CAD Manager

Message 7 of 38
Joe-Bouza
in reply to: AllenJessup

How do I fix it? I'm not using any vport overrides.
Thank you

Joseph D. Bouza, P.E. (one of 'THOSE' People)

HP Z210 Workstation
Intel Xeon CPU E31240 @ 3.30 Hz
12 GB Ram


Note: Its all Resistentialism, so keep calm and carry on

64 Bit Win10 OS
Message 8 of 38
AllenJessup
in reply to: Joe-Bouza

I don't know of any way. I'm afraid you may have to duplicate the settings and save the Layer State again.

 

Allen



Allen Jessup
Engineering Specialist / CAD Manager

Message 9 of 38
Joe-Bouza
in reply to: AllenJessup

Overide removal no problem: Highlight all layers RC remove overides.

However and this is begining to irritate me. I have 2 states "all layers on" & "specific frozen layers" I set and save but when pick from the layer panel it reverts to "unsaved layer state". this shouldn't be so hard. How do you save yours?
Thank you

Joseph D. Bouza, P.E. (one of 'THOSE' People)

HP Z210 Workstation
Intel Xeon CPU E31240 @ 3.30 Hz
12 GB Ram


Note: Its all Resistentialism, so keep calm and carry on

64 Bit Win10 OS
Message 10 of 38
AllenJessup
in reply to: Joe-Bouza

I can't ever remember having a problem like that. This is how I have them set to save:

 

lss.png

 

Allen



Allen Jessup
Engineering Specialist / CAD Manager

Message 11 of 38
Joe-Bouza
in reply to: AllenJessup

this shows what I am going through

 

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Thank you

Joseph D. Bouza, P.E. (one of 'THOSE' People)

HP Z210 Workstation
Intel Xeon CPU E31240 @ 3.30 Hz
12 GB Ram


Note: Its all Resistentialism, so keep calm and carry on

64 Bit Win10 OS
Message 12 of 38
AllenJessup
in reply to: Joe-Bouza

The only thing I see that's different in the way I do it is that I still use the Layers toolbar - not the ribbon. Try typing Layerstate and doing everything from the dialog box. I know that sometimes things work a bit different from the ribbon.

 

Allen



Allen Jessup
Engineering Specialist / CAD Manager

Message 13 of 38
Joe-Bouza
in reply to: AllenJessup

I think the problem may be with "relative" XREF paths
Thank you

Joseph D. Bouza, P.E. (one of 'THOSE' People)

HP Z210 Workstation
Intel Xeon CPU E31240 @ 3.30 Hz
12 GB Ram


Note: Its all Resistentialism, so keep calm and carry on

64 Bit Win10 OS
Message 14 of 38
Joe-Bouza
in reply to: AllenJessup

Not the path.
MS PS
if in layout tab no worky
if in model tab yes worky
Thank you

Joseph D. Bouza, P.E. (one of 'THOSE' People)

HP Z210 Workstation
Intel Xeon CPU E31240 @ 3.30 Hz
12 GB Ram


Note: Its all Resistentialism, so keep calm and carry on

64 Bit Win10 OS
Message 15 of 38
troma
in reply to: Joe-Bouza

In paperspace, or in the modelspace of a viewport?

Mark Green

Working on Civil 3D in Canada

Message 16 of 38
AllenJessup
in reply to: Joe-Bouza

Joe,

 

This might not have anything to do with it. But there are 2 kinds of Layer States based on which space they were saved from. If a Layer state was saved from ModelSpace or from an active layout viewport (IOW clicked into MS through the viewport) it's a Modelspace layout. If the Layer State is saved while in a Layout view (PaperSpace) then it's al Layout Layer State.

 

Could it be that you accidentally saved a Layout as a Model or that you're trying to restore a Model in PaperSpace?

 

lsm2.png

 

Allen



Allen Jessup
Engineering Specialist / CAD Manager

Message 17 of 38
troma
in reply to: AllenJessup

We do all ours in modelspace in a viewport, and they are still saved as "Layout" in the Manager.

Mark Green

Working on Civil 3D in Canada

Message 18 of 38
AllenJessup
in reply to: troma

We also mostly use modelspace Layer States. The drawing I picked was a complicated one that grew instead of being planned. So I ended up with some layout as well as model. But sometimes I've seen ones that were supposed to be Model saved as Layout cause some confusion. I've done it myself. So I thought I'd mention it. Sometimes you can't see the forest for the trees.

 

Allen



Allen Jessup
Engineering Specialist / CAD Manager

Message 19 of 38
Joe-Bouza
in reply to: troma

In the Model Tab
Thank you

Joseph D. Bouza, P.E. (one of 'THOSE' People)

HP Z210 Workstation
Intel Xeon CPU E31240 @ 3.30 Hz
12 GB Ram


Note: Its all Resistentialism, so keep calm and carry on

64 Bit Win10 OS
Message 20 of 38
Joe-Bouza
in reply to: AllenJessup

Ok. if I were in a layout tab, opened the layer dialog and selected my newly created filters (most excellent) and froze and thawed the way I want ( that first column being global no vp overrides) why would it save as model? weird.

So now I go to model tab and re-do it. Now I know I saves Model space. Now I have to know and tell everyone to swithch to MS to set the layer state? Something doesn't smesll right here.
Thank you

Joseph D. Bouza, P.E. (one of 'THOSE' People)

HP Z210 Workstation
Intel Xeon CPU E31240 @ 3.30 Hz
12 GB Ram


Note: Its all Resistentialism, so keep calm and carry on

64 Bit Win10 OS

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