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gslyons
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Labeling surface section

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10-08-2013 04:10 PM

I want to label the surface sections (eg, fg) in a single location something like what is shown in the attached image.

 

Currently I am using a major offset label which refers to the surface description* where the surface name is stored. I set the increment to a suitable number which results in multiple labels along the section. I then drag one into position and delete the rest using ctrl-select. While it would be far easier to use multileaders to acheive the correct look, they don't update location with the section views.

 

I'm sure that there has to be a better way, but I haven't found it in my searchs of these forums and the 'net at large. I'd appreciate any better ideas.

 

Thanks,

 

~g

 

*We use the description to store the 'friendly' name as our object naming standard wouldn't necessarily make sense to the viewer of the plans.

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mathewk
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Re: Labeling surface section

10-08-2013 06:16 PM in reply to: gslyons

I assume you are referring to the elevaiotn labels at certain locations like the botom of ditch, CL, and SW in points?

 

The best way to attack this is to edit the code set style that is being used to display those corridor sections and add the Point codes and styles accordingly.  Every time a corridor contains those points, they autmoatically get labeled, no manual adding or editing required.

 

Try this link to learn how.

Matt Kolberg
Cansel - Autodesk Division
http://www.cansel.ca/
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gslyons
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Message 3 of 9 (169 Views)

Re: Labeling surface section

10-08-2013 06:24 PM in reply to: gslyons

Thanks for the reply.

 

No, I've got the elevations handled with code sets although the screenshot I attached previously shows a couple of them missing (I caught a corridor I'd forgotten to sample after I posted). What I want to do is label the sections: "Existing Grade" and "Proposed Grade" as shown in the image. The major offset works, but it's a little tediious to determine the appropriate offsets for each section. Ideally, there'd be something like a note label that could reference the name or description of the surface section. Then I could just set the style in the add labels panel and click away.

 

~g

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sboon
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Re: Labeling surface section

10-08-2013 07:32 PM in reply to: gslyons

Perhaps you could label something else.  I've created two feature lines in this drawing, draped them onto the existing and design surfaces, and then projected them onto the section views.  The labels you can see are displaying the projection source object name.  If I move the featurelines or the design changes then I can update the elevations to reposition the labels.

 

The annoying part is that I have to go through all of them and put the labels into dragged state. 

 

Steve
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gslyons
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Message 5 of 9 (153 Views)

Re: Labeling surface section

10-08-2013 07:41 PM in reply to: sboon

That solution works I suppose, but I'm not certain it's any easier than using an offset label.

 

With the offset labels, I can at least setup the labeling for a group of sections beforehand and only reposition (offset) the ones that conflict with other section objects. I still have to go through and position them in dragged mode like yours. I'm not sure I want another object to manage (the feature lines), and I don't know if it would be any better to have to go back and forth between the section and the feature line to control positioning.

 

Don't take this the wrong way, I do like your approach and I'm open to any alternatives that would reduce my click count. I suppose this should be a wish list item (section name note label).

 

Thanks again,

 

~g

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gslyons
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Re: Labeling surface section

10-08-2013 07:45 PM in reply to: gslyons

And...    ...is this an unusual requirement? I've been labeling profile and section lines like this since my days on the drafting board. It would seem to be a common need that could be made a whole lot easier...

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Jay_B
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Message 7 of 9 (147 Views)

Re: Labeling surface section

10-08-2013 07:47 PM in reply to: gslyons

Another option would be to use Profile Grade Lines with Marker styles.

Might work if there's some flexibility in the look and placement as if you want leaders they'd

need to be defined in the marker style block something like this.

Vertical label and line would be cleaner with this approach.

 

surface labels.JPG

 

Jay

C3D 2014 SP1
Win 7 Professional 64 Bit
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sboon
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Message 8 of 9 (130 Views)

Re: Labeling surface section

10-08-2013 08:04 PM in reply to: gslyons

Typically we label them on one section per sheet, and sometimes only once on the first sheet of a larger book of sections.

 

I thought about it some more and if the section views were predictable then I could have extracted two corridor featurelines (maintaining the dynamic link) and used them for positioning the labels.  Less work to update things that way.

 

Steve
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gslyons
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Message 9 of 9 (128 Views)

Re: Labeling surface section

10-08-2013 08:07 PM in reply to: gslyons

Yeah, I would typically put them on the first section of each sheet but I've got a PM who wants them on every section. It's cluttered looking and takes more time than I'd like...

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