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Interoperability 2014 to 2013

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Message 1 of 15
neilyj666
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Interoperability 2014 to 2013

Apparently you can edit Civil 2014 files in 2013 with a few exceptions e.g.pressure pipes

 

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XD1K-5GS02M

neilyj (No connection with Autodesk other than using the products in the real world)
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Message 2 of 15
troma
in reply to: neilyj666

Sounds like a step in the right direction.


Mark Green

Working on Civil 3D in Canada

Message 3 of 15
Jay_B
in reply to: neilyj666

Interoperability / backward compatibility is great news!Smiley Happy

Glad to see AutoDesk is adding this much needed option and hopefully this can be expanded it to a minimum 2 releases backward in the future. (Since 2013 was a new file format, makes sense it only works for 2014 working with 2013 files)

This will definitely help the Civil 3D community with project collaboration moving forward.

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Message 4 of 15
ToddRogers-WPM
in reply to: neilyj666

FINALLY!!!



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rl_jackson
in reply to: ToddRogers-WPM

Can we here a resounding

 

"Hooraayyyyyy!!!!!!!!" Smiley Happy


Rick Jackson
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Message 6 of 15
mathewkol
in reply to: neilyj666

Another exception is DREFs.  It will appear as a strandalone object in 2013 which is editable.  Not so good, but how would the code get around this I don't know.  Open the same file in 2014 and the DREF is reloaded from the source file.

 

This was done becasue  if a DREF is not found in 2014, the object still shows!  Very cool.  It's like the object exists as a standalone object, but if the source file is found it is used.  Obviously, 2013 does not have this feature, so it IS a standalone object.

 

Still, working in a mixed environment in your own office (2013 and 2014 seats) is an undesirable situation.

Matt Kolberg
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Message 7 of 15
Jay_B
in reply to: mathewkol

Anyone heard yet if Pressure Pipes can now be be DREF'd?

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Message 8 of 15
mathewkol
in reply to: Jay_B

Yes they can.  See my post.

http://forums.autodesk.com/t5/AutoCAD-Civil-3D/Civil-3D-2014-New-Features/td-p/3816516 

Matt Kolberg
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Message 9 of 15
troma
in reply to: mathewkol

Sounds good Matt.  So if I'm in 2013 and another office sends me a 2014 file I can use everything in it, even if they were dref items not promoted into the file!  (Except pressure networks?)

 

Does the user in 2014 have to perform a "Save As" to 2013 for this to work?


Mark Green

Working on Civil 3D in Canada

Message 10 of 15
mathewkol
in reply to: troma

You can use everything in it within reason.  Objects that don't exist in 2013 will be rendered as proxy objects.  Some objects, including DREFs will have odd behavior, since the way they are used in 2014 has changed.

 

See here:

http://docs.autodesk.com/CIV3D/2014/ENU/index.html?url=filesCUG/topichead_0.htm,topicNumber=CUGd30e1...

 

No SAVEAS will be requyired, just open the file.

Matt Kolberg
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Message 11 of 15
Neilw_05
in reply to: neilyj666

Since XP is no longer supported, having this interoperability will allow for XP users with 2013 to work with newer version users for at least another year.

Neil Wilson (a.k.a. neilw)
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Message 12 of 15
dhenderhan
in reply to: Neilw_05

We recently upgraded a few computers to 2014 and were told it was completely backward compatible (except pressure networks, dref's) We are having issues opening 2014 dwg's in 2013.  no pressure networks, just point, surfaces, alignments, profiles, profile views, attached sheet set propoerties, multiple layouts, and attached images.  Comes up on the screen and immediately fatal errors.  Any ideas?  Doesn't matter wich computer, no 2014 dwg will open in 2013.

Thanks,

David E. Henderhan, PLS
Civil 3D 2023
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Message 13 of 15
klugb
in reply to: dhenderhan

We ran into some issues recently with 2013 files also after installing IDS 2014. After running a repair of 2013 our errors & FE's went away. Worth trying.

 

Bruce Klug, P.E.
AutoCAD Expert Elite Alumni
AutoCAD Civil 3D Certified Professional
Civil 3D 2023.2.1

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Message 14 of 15
dhenderhan
in reply to: klugb

Thanks, but it didn't seem to fix it.

 

 

Thanks,

David E. Henderhan, PLS
Civil 3D 2023
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Message 15 of 15
hmartinez5
in reply to: Neilw_05

We are also experiencing the same issue when opening a 2014 file from 2013. The AutoCAD instance immediately fails.

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