How do you all move you c3d template forward?DWT & UNDO

[Joe-Bouza]

VIA a SR I was advised noted to open the earlier version and save. I was actually advise to start anew. How do you all do it?

It seems my 2012 saved forward screwed up 2013 & 2014 UNDO

[mathewkol]

RECOVER the earlier DWT as many times as it takes not to find any errors.  Then save.  No problems as of yet.   Starting from scratch would be crazy unless there were serious problems with the DWT.  Way too much work.

[jporter]

Other options...

1. First save a backup of your current DWT file. Then, in the new software, open the DWT file and save it. It's now in the new format. Some might disagree with this method if you 'be got a lot of customization in your older DWT file.

2. In your older software begin a new, blank drawing from your DWT file. Save it, and close it. Then launch the 2014 software from its standard NCS DWT file. Insert and explode the first drawing into your new 2014 drawing. All your older styles should then be in your new drawing. Save file as your new DWT.

3. Launch your 2014 software. Use the import styles and settings tool on the manage tab and navigate to your older DWT file. Once all the styles and settings have been imported you can save the drawing as a DWT file.

Hope this helps,

Jason

[troma]

I used Matt's advice when I moved from 2011 to 2013. I've found some problems with some labels: they've added more settings and interpreted my old settings wrongly. I forget the specifics, but it wasn't too bad.

[Joe-Bouza]

Hows your UNDO in 13?
create a new drawing, draw a line, pan zom a few times and inspect the undo arrow and tell me if you have an inordinate number of grouped commands

[Joe-Bouza]

No errors in the 2012 dwt found. when I save to 2014 the UNDO buffer fills up with hundreds of group commands. This does not occur in 2012 only 13 and 14 after, update, insert or import of styles.

I went out of my wat not to deploy 2013 because of this now I have the same proplem with 2014. I cant ceate all my styles again - I feel trapped here.

[Cadguru42]

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@Joe-Bouza wrote:
Hows your UNDO in 13?
create a new drawing, draw a line, pan zom a few times and inspect the undo arrow and tell me if you have an inordinate number of grouped commands

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I just did in 2014 with SP1 using the default template that comes out of the box. I created a polyline, zoomed a bunch, panned a bunch, and now my undo dropdown shows 7 (Group of commands). I went back, panned two more times, now the undo shows 10 Group of Commands. 

[Joe-Bouza]

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@PorterCAD wrote:
Other options...

1. First save a backup of your current DWT file. Then, in the new software, open the DWT file and save it. It's now in the new format. Some might disagree with this method if you 'be got a lot of customization in your older DWT file.

2. In your older software begin a new, blank drawing from your DWT file. Save it, and close it. Then launch the 2014 software from its standard NCS DWT file. Insert and explode the first drawing into your new 2014 drawing. All your older styles should then be in your new drawing. Save file as your new DWT.

3. Launch your 2014 software. Use the import styles and settings tool on the manage tab and navigate to your older DWT file. Once all the styles and settings have been imported you can save the drawing as a DWT file.

Hope this helps,

Jason

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In principle all these methods work. However no matter how I convert or bring in my styles the UNDO gets fouled up

[jporter]

i see that as well.  Sorry , I never noticed it.  I see the "Group of Commands".  I've seen these before while working on projects.  I've not see them them when I begin a new drawing though.  But  I've never really payed attention to it either. 

I began a new drawing in 2014 using the template I created in 2012, saved it as a new DWT file.  Then I began a new drawing in 2014 based off that new DWT file.  I drew a couple of lines, moved, copied, erased, blah, blah, blah. . .I'm getting the "Group of Commands" when I UNDO.

I began a new drawing 2014 using the standard NCS template.  I repeated the same process and I still see the "Group of Commands" after I UNDO a few times. However, I did notice that I got a "Group of Commands" before the drawing even bagan.  Take a look at this image. . .you'll see that even before the ribbon is loaded it's makes a place holder for it:

I dont' think the issue is isolated to the migration of the older file.  I think this is how 2014 is designed.  So what are these "Group of Commands"? ? ? ? ??

[Joe-Bouza]

I'm talkin Hundreds of group commands on our system hundreds! Essentially undo is moot.

[jporter]

Well, then, that's definitely an issue.  Though I'm not getting hundreds, I do see a few.  I think it might be caused by the panning and zooming.  I've done some and I see more appear.  I also see that this appears to be an ongoing issue that Autodesk knows about:

http://forums.autodesk.com/t5/AutoCAD-2013-2014-DWG-Format/Undo-command-doens-t-work-in-the-right-wa...

Autodesk responded in this post.

[Joe-Bouza]

Thanks. My sanity is returning. It appears to be the pan zoom using the mouse wheel. Keyborad commands do no over populate the UNDO buffer