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Re: Google Earth utilities with R2013 products

04-18-2012 01:24 AM in reply to: Sinc

Sinc wrote:

Not a great solution, IMHO. But then we've also never used Google Earth Pro... We have Terrain Navigator, though, which is what we use for this stuff. And we've also been hesitant about moving up to 2013, especially with all the problems people have been discovering (not related to this issue).


I'm intending moving on to 2013 soon - can you elaborate on these problems...?

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Message 32 of 119 (2,877 Views)

Re: Google Earth utilities with R2013 products

04-18-2012 05:57 AM in reply to: neilyj

neilyj wrote:

Sinc wrote:

Not a great solution, IMHO. But then we've also never used Google Earth Pro... We have Terrain Navigator, though, which is what we use for this stuff. And we've also been hesitant about moving up to 2013, especially with all the problems people have been discovering (not related to this issue).


I'm intending moving on to 2013 soon - can you elaborate on these problems...?


Here are 3 off the top of my head.  First two mean we cannot use 2013 at all until these are fixed.

 

  1. Survey Figures can't be edited in the survey figure properties dialog.
  2. MAPIINSERT tries to reproject on the fly now, but misreads the geolocation header on GeoTIFFs.
  3. Help file does not include any of these new features or terms, such as a vector based figure vs. chain based.
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Message 33 of 119 (2,874 Views)

Re: Google Earth utilities with R2013 products

04-18-2012 06:19 AM in reply to: andrewpuller3811

Regarding the $30-$40k - to have terrain data and imagery generated for a project could cost you anywhere from $15k for a real small site to a couple $100k if you hired someone to get that data for you. So it's hard for me to see people complaining about a free service.

 

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Message 34 of 119 (2,785 Views)

Re: Google Earth utilities with R2013 products

04-19-2012 08:17 PM in reply to: dsimeone

We are one of the C3D reseller in Malaysia.

 

Out of sudden, we receive bombing of emails and phone calls asking us "WHERE IS THE GOOGLE EARTH MENU in C3D 2013...?!!"

 

And our "polite" answer is, "Please 'ignore' C3D2013 and use 2012 instead". We shall send an email to you regarding the C3D2013 and Google Earth integration issue."

 

Thus, we send an official email directing them to THIS thread for our customers to review.

 

To ADSK, your customers already "addicted" to the Google Earth integration feature(s). Now, you let them down. Please find a possible workaround (hopefully without incurring any dollars and cents...).

 

 

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Message 35 of 119 (2,775 Views)

Re: Google Earth utilities with R2013 products

04-19-2012 10:25 PM in reply to: noor.azhar

 

@ noor.azhar

 

What are you looking for here, sir?

A serious reseller should NOT complain in a customers' forum like this, but in "higher" grounds, i.e. directly to Autodesk.

About the possible workarounds, check out the "06-04-2012 09:05 AM" post in the current topic...

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noor.azhar
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Re: Google Earth utilities with R2013 products

04-19-2012 11:23 PM in reply to: dsimeone
Thanks antoniovinci...

A serious reseller is to always makes customers happy.

Thus, we have found the solutions to this catastrophe; but we ain't reveal it here in this 'public' forum.
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Message 37 of 119 (2,768 Views)

Re: Google Earth utilities with R2013 products

04-19-2012 11:41 PM in reply to: noor.azhar

Hi,

 

@ noor.azhar:

 

>> we have found the solutions [...] but we ain't reveal it here [...]

The reason why there exist discussion boards is exactly that you pointed out now: I have a solution but I don't tell anyone here which is it. :smileysad:

 

Sarcasm off:

Is that how you work with your customers? Don't forget: any participant here could be your customer from tomorrow ... but with words like you use?

 

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neilyj
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Message 38 of 119 (2,764 Views)

Re: Google Earth utilities with R2013 products

04-20-2012 12:22 AM in reply to: antoniovinci

antoniovinci wrote:

 

@ noor.azhar

 

What are you looking for here, sir?

A serious reseller should NOT complain in a customers' forum like this, but in "higher" grounds, i.e. directly to Autodesk.

About the possible workarounds, check out the "06-04-2012 09:05 AM" post in the current topic...


.... and always remembering that this "workaround" is probably of dubious legality........

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Message 39 of 119 (2,774 Views)

Re: Google Earth utilities with R2013 products

04-20-2012 06:27 AM in reply to: rl_jackson
I totally agree with you.
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Message 40 of 119 (2,683 Views)

Re: Google Earth utilities with R2013 products

04-22-2012 07:57 AM in reply to: dsimeone

To me, it a bunch of phooey

 

 Google images and information are used world wide and the fact is every use has a finacial impact.

 

If I send you a google map to get to my house... wheres the compensation

If I find a place of interest on google map.... where is the compensation, yada yada yada.

 

Take all those casual GE users that get and tranfer GE images and information with out properly compensating google, and Civl3d users are a "mere bag of shells"  in the bigger picture

 

My guess... There is way more to the story then we are being told. The $ just don't add up. IMHO

Thank you

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