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Drag Cogo Point Label takes 75 seconds

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AllenJessup
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Drag Cogo Point Label takes 75 seconds

I've been generally having trouble with Civil 3D 2012 taking a long time to do tasks. One that takes quite a while is if I drag a Cogo Point Label. As stated it takes about 75 seconds. It will move to where I drag it immediately but then the program is unresponsive for a minute and 15 seconds.

 

In the past 4 days I've repaired C3D, tried 4 or 5 different versions of the display driver and did a windows update. A lot of commands, specifically Civil 3D commands, are very slow. Does this ring any bells?

 

Allen

Civil 3D 2012 with SP (Update) 1

 NVIDIA  Quadro FX 4600 768MB GDDR3 (Tune log reports 2530 MB)
Driver 8.17.0012.9670

Allen Jessup
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Hi,

 

have you opened the property window? If so, close it (at least for a test), also disable QuickProperties if you have it active.

 

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Message 3 of 21

I didn't have Properties open but did have QP on. I also had Layer Manger, Toolspace and Tool Palettes open. I decided to close all of them. Somewhere between closing the Toolspace (2nd to last to be closed) and the Tool Palette (last to be closed) I got a Fatal Error. I let it save a recover file and when I ran RECOVER on the file. I got a drawing that doesn't have that problem. I'll have to see if any others show up.

 

In the recovered drawing I have everything I mentioned above open, plus I opened the Properties box, and I still don't have a problem dragging point labels. So I think in this case it was the Recover that solved the problem. I had run Audit on the drawing yesterday, so I hadn't thought to do that.

 

Allen

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jmayo-EE
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Try going into the cui and turning off tooltips for cogo points.

John Mayo

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I responded too soon. It started having the same problem again after about 5 minutes. I tried to close thing again and it Fatal Errored when I closed Toolspace.

 

It looks like it's time to reinstall Civil 3D.Smiley Sad

 

Allen

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AllenJessup
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Thanks John. But I think it goes deeper than that.

 

Allen

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jmayo-EE
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No prob. Just making sure you knew there was an issue with the tooltips an cogo points for a number of users here.

John Mayo

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Anonymous
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I think you are running low memory I have a lot of problem running in a 32 bit W7 PC I move to a 64 bit W7 with 16G ram and ........... voila magic, solved problem

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AllenJessup
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I think that's a good possibility. I only have 4GB of RAM. But there's nothing I can do about that now.

 

Allen

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Anonymous
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Definitely is your problem, as soon as you up-grade you’ll see the difference, Auto-Cad C3D-2012 use to much memory for graphic definition and another thing, you have to create more space for virtual memory it help little more,  in addition a video card with more memory is a plus

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AllenJessup
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@Anonymous wrote:

 as soon as you up-grade you’ll see the difference,



Not going to happen soon. No money. 150 layoffs (out of 2300) scheduled for next month. Maybe I wont have to worry about this for much longerSmiley Surprised

 

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Sinc
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What are your full system specs?

 

One of my systems is still an i7-920, but it also has 8GB RAM and is on Win7 x64.  It's not as nice as my computer at home (i7-2600, 16GB RAM) or my laptop (i7-2860QM, 16GB RAM), but it still seems to work pretty well.  So the key thing might be to get onto Win7 x64 with at least 8GB RAM (which is actually a pretty cheap upgrade).

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Message 13 of 21
AllenJessup
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Dell Precision T7400, Windows 7 64bit

Intel Xeon X5460 (Harpertown) @ 3.16GHz

Bus Speed: 333 MHz

FSB: 1330 MHz

MOBO: Dell ORW199

BIOS: A10 12/29/2011

RAM: 4GB FB-DDR2 332.5MHz

Nvidia Quadro FX 4600, 768MB

2, ATA SAMSUNG HD251HJ SCSI Disks

 

This should be a very good machine. Not brand new but near top of the line when bought. Lacking in RAM though. I would love to by some more but with our financial situation it isn't going to happen.

 

I had a similar problem a couple of months ago and what IT did was to wipe my machine and restore a Ghost image made when they installed Windows 7 the first time. But that was only 6 weeks ago. I can't have the computer rebuilt every six weeks.

 

Allen

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Anonymous
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I think you need only to up-grade the RAM 4G is not an adequate amount, minimum you need 8 GB, 16 GB is the ideal, and the memory card are not expensive, this some memory information about my Video

NVidia Quadro 2000M

With a processor clock 1100 MHz

Memory clock : 900 MHz (1800 MHz data rate)

Memory interface: 128 bit

Total graphic memory 9924 MB

Dedicated video memory 2048 MB DDR3

Bus: PCI Express x16 Gen2

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AllenJessup
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@Anonymous wrote:

I think you need only to up-grade the RAM 4G is not an adequate amount


 

Yes. That seems to be the opinion most people have, and I agree that I need more RAM. But that's not going to happen unless I pay for it myself. I might consider that but I'd rather wait until I see if I have a job next month.

 

Allen

 

 

 

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Anonymous
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Good luck

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AllenJessup
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Thank you. In some ways I shouldn't have to worry, but I've seen private firms strip most of their senior staff and leave just some junior techs. Governments can be even weirder.

 

Allen

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AllenJessup
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An update. This doesn't seem to be anything that 2 clean installs and another 8GB of RAM wouldn't cure. After the second clean inhalation I could drag the labels without much trouble. Now that I bit the bullet and got enough RAM to bring me up to 12GB thing are working much better.

 

Allen

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jmayo-EE
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Did u disable the tooltips for Congo points in the cui after reinstalling? Sent from my iPhone

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AllenJessup
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No. Didn't touch it.

 

Allen

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