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Neilw
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Re: Distributing Infrastructure and Civil 3D Models in 3D PDF format

01-28-2013 04:19 PM in reply to: Alfred.NESWADBA

So let me get this workflow straight. I import my C3D stuff into IM, create my model, then export to FBX, then import into some other app. then hopefully from there I can export to PDF.

 

Frankly this is rediculous.

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Re: Distributing Infrastructure and Civil 3D Models in 3D PDF format

01-28-2013 10:38 PM in reply to: Neilw

Hi,

 

>> Frankly this is rediculous.

Yep, as long as Infrastructure Modeler does not hold real 3D-data (it just displaying some data like 3D but it's more a GIS-product than a 3D-geometry editor) the export is not trivial.

 

Even DWF (as Autodesk internal prefered 3D-viewing format) is not supported by AIM (afaik) and that makes me thinking that FBX is at least one way to get geometry converted to other 3D-vector based products, working with 3D-CAD or 3D-visualisation-objects.

 

You are right that this is not the easiest workflow, but at least it is one :smileywink:

 

Sorry not to have more, - alfred -

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Re: Distributing Infrastructure and Civil 3D Models in 3D PDF format

01-29-2013 07:09 AM in reply to: Alfred.NESWADBA

I'm thinking it would be better to just use C3D for generating the visualizations. We don't need the sophistication of 3DS and it doesn't make sense to have to learn 2 more applications (IM and 3DS) to get our models out.

 

That still leaves us with the problem of how to get those models out to clients. 360 looks like a good solution but it requires setting up accounts and managing another portal. We already have a portal for our projects so it would be best if we could make our models available there.

Neil Wilson (a.k.a. neilw)
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Re: Distributing Infrastructure and Civil 3D Models in 3D PDF format

01-29-2013 07:25 AM in reply to: Neilw

Hi,

 

>> I'm thinking it would be better to just use C3D for generating the visualizations

>> We don't need the sophistication of 3DS

To export as FBX from AIM does not mean you have then to use 3DS, you can also import the FBX file into Civil3D.

 

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Re: Distributing Infrastructure and Civil 3D Models in 3D PDF format

01-29-2013 07:34 AM in reply to: Alfred.NESWADBA

So what is the advantage of IM? Can we not do all of those things in C3D?

 

And again, how do we get those models out of C3D?

Neil Wilson (a.k.a. neilw)
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Re: Distributing Infrastructure and Civil 3D Models in 3D PDF format

01-29-2013 07:43 AM in reply to: Neilw

Hi,

 

>> So what is the advantage of IM?

I see AIM as GIS-engine for displaying infrastructure with easy tools with a real mass of objects.

I see AIM as tool to draft (not design, just fast draft), create easy buildings, some small water basins, simplified streets (without any thinking about exact elevation/slopes/materials of subassembly-parts/.... draft multiple revisions and present them before you start your more detailed planing. So I would use this product before I start to setup my Civil3D-environment for a project.

That's my understanding of what is AIM for. But I'm sure there are a lot more ideas for how it's useable from others too.

 

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Re: Distributing Infrastructure and Civil 3D Models in 3D PDF format

01-29-2013 07:58 AM in reply to: Alfred.NESWADBA

Valid points. I suppose if we were doing large scale planning it would be useful in that regard. For the type of projects we do I don't see that as an advantage since our designs are highly dependent on the grading, so we have to evaluate the grading more precisely before presenting a scenario.

 

I'm now glad I didn't invest too much time into learning the product as I don't think it is a good solution for us..

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