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[Anonymous]

Four (4) days and counting.

Bill

[Anonymous]

On 5/31/2010 8:09 AM, wfb wrote:

> Four (4) days and counting.

I think Jeff summed it up best with his statement about freeing up time.

Terry

[Anonymous]

Woo Hoo..... I can hardly wait! 😞

"wfb" wrote in message
news:6400223@discussion.autodesk.com...
> Four (4) days and counting.
>
> Bill

[Anonymous]

Around these parts we say, "can't hardly"!

Bill

"Jeff Mishler" wrote in message
news:6400292@discussion.autodesk.com...
Woo Hoo..... I can hardly wait! 😞

"wfb" wrote in message
news:6400223@discussion.autodesk.com...
> Four (4) days and counting.
>
> Bill

[BrianHailey]

I've always used the web based access since I log in from multiple locations so I'm actually looking forward to the update. Hopefully it will make things faster for the web side of things. I do think it's crummy that those that use the NNTP side won't have that option any more though. Hopefully the web updates will make it worthwhile.

Brian Hailey
http://www.cad-1.com
http://www.AtYourDeskTraining.com
http://Civil3DPlus.wordpress.com

[Anonymous]

Three (3) days and counting.

Bill

[Sinc]

I'm with you, Brian. I've been using the web browser for the same reason - I check the forums from multiple computers, and have never liked using newsreaders because of this. I also don't like the search in news readers - I get better results by using Google to search these forums.

Using this web interface has been a real pain, but because of the above reasons, I've already been using it. And I, too, am hoping for some relief in the upcoming update.

-- Sinc
http://www.ejsurveying.com
http://www.quuxsoft.com

[Anonymous]

You'd think they'd at least do the web updates while keeping the
newsgroups to make sure everything goes smoothly. At least that way
it's tested to see if it's actually better.

I guess this is the last week I'll really be reading these. This just
means a higher cost to Autodesk because now I'll be using the support
requests for everything instead of coming here and reading if someone
else had the problem first.

EB
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Win7 Pro 64-bit
Civil 3D 2011 64-bit
6GB RAM


On 6/1/2010 7:52 AM, wfb wrote:
> Three (3) days and counting.
>
> Bill

--

[Sinc]

> {quote:title=Guest wrote:}{quote}
> I guess this is the last week I'll really be reading these. This just
> means a higher cost to Autodesk because now I'll be using the support
> requests for everything instead of coming here and reading if someone
> else had the problem first.

Unfortunately, that might be better overall.

When people solve problems by coming here instead of reporting them to Autodesk, it gives Autodesk the impression that it isn't really a problem. They only seem to fix things that get a lot of complaints. So maybe filing every single problem with Autodesk support will be better - we might get more of the problems fixed, instead of needing to work around them year after year and release after release.

-- Sinc
http://www.ejsurveying.com
http://www.quuxsoft.com

[Anonymous]

You know, that's a good point. Hadn't thought of it that way.

EB
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Win7 Pro 64-bit
Civil 3D 2011 64-bit
6GB RAM

On 6/1/2010 8:15 AM, dei-feif wrote:
>> {quote:title=Guest wrote:}{quote}
>> I guess this is the last week I'll really be reading these. This just
>> means a higher cost to Autodesk because now I'll be using the support
>> requests for everything instead of coming here and reading if someone
>> else had the problem first.
>
> Unfortunately, that might be better overall.
>
> When people solve problems by coming here instead of reporting them to Autodesk, it gives Autodesk the impression that it isn't really a problem. They only seem to fix things that get a lot of complaints. So maybe filing every single problem with Autodesk support will be better - we might get more of the problems fixed, instead of needing to work around them year after year and release after release.
>
> -- Sinc
> http://www.ejsurveying.com
> http://www.quuxsoft.com

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[Anonymous]

I'm out of the loop here. What are you refering too?

"wfb" wrote in message
news:6400587@discussion.autodesk.com...
Three (3) days and counting.

Bill

[Anonymous]

Autodesk, in their infinite wisdom, is getting rid of the newsgroups and
moving them to a web based forum only.

EB
-----------------------
Win7 Pro 64-bit
Civil 3D 2011 64-bit
6GB RAM


On 6/1/2010 10:44 AM, Robert wrote:
> I'm out of the loop here. What are you refering too?
>
> "wfb" wrote in message
> news:6400587@discussion.autodesk.com...
> Three (3) days and counting.
>
> Bill

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[Anonymous]

wfb wrote:
> Three (3) days and counting.
>
> Bill

Lets make it more epic

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=u8zla30TCzw&feature=youtube_gdata

[Anonymous]

So then using Outlook will be no more?

"Srayos Endbringer" wrote in message
news:6400659@discussion.autodesk.com...
Autodesk, in their infinite wisdom, is getting rid of the newsgroups and
moving them to a web based forum only.

EB
-----------------------
Win7 Pro 64-bit
Civil 3D 2011 64-bit
6GB RAM


On 6/1/2010 10:44 AM, Robert wrote:
> I'm out of the loop here. What are you refering too?
>
> "wfb" wrote in message
> news:6400587@discussion.autodesk.com...
> Three (3) days and counting.
>
> Bill

--

[MSBryan]

> {quote:title=dei-feif wrote:}{quote}
> > {quote:title=Guest wrote:}{quote}
> > I guess this is the last week I'll really be reading these. This just
> > means a higher cost to Autodesk because now I'll be using the support
> > requests for everything instead of coming here and reading if someone
> > else had the problem first.
>
> Unfortunately, that might be better overall.
>
> When people solve problems by coming here instead of reporting them to Autodesk, it gives Autodesk the impression that it isn't really a problem. They only seem to fix things that get a lot of complaints. So maybe filing every single problem with Autodesk support will be better - we might get more of the problems fixed, instead of needing to work around them year after year and release after release.
>
> -- Sinc
> http://www.ejsurveying.com
> http://www.quuxsoft.com


Sinc,

I think you have a very valid point, but I also think that some problems are solved via the reseller or implementation teams and so those issues never make it to the discussion boards.

At a previous employer we had problems with not being able to check drawings in to the vault. I personally thought the issue was possibly a switching or latency issue with our network (that's probably not the best description). A situation caused by the way our network was set up vs the way vault was intended to be set up. We escalated the issue up the ladder and had an Autodesk developer log in and look at our setup. I personally wasn't available during that session (can't guaranty I would have been helpful). The tweeks that were made temprorarily solved our issues, but the problems eventually came back. I switched jobs since that occured and know that they now are moving everything to data shortcuts as the issue was never fully resolved.

The point I'm trying to make is that during that time, I scoured the web and discussion groups for similar issues as to what we were running into and never found any significant conversation or data to help us resolve our problems. I have experience with implementing massive site installations of Oracle and know that a lot of the time issues are resolved on one off basis or sometimes during testing, only to pop up randomly weeks or months after implementation and no one, other than the initial team who resolved it, ever knew it was an issue to begin with.

MB

[Anonymous]

Which means more programmers and engineers to fix the problems and who
pays for that????

Not Autodesk.

[Anonymous]

"The tic tock of the clock is painful..."

:o

--

John Mayo, PE

Win 7 64, C3D & RD 2010
Core i7 920, 6 GB DDR3
Quadro FX 1700

[Anonymous]

Yes, no more using Outlook or Thunderbird to read the newsgroups.
Autodesk is forcing everyone to use the web based system.

EB
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Win7 Pro 64-bit
Civil 3D 2011 64-bit
6GB RAM

On 6/1/2010 11:35 AM, Robert wrote:
> So then using Outlook will be no more?
>
> "Srayos Endbringer" wrote in message
> news:6400659@discussion.autodesk.com...
> Autodesk, in their infinite wisdom, is getting rid of the newsgroups and
> moving them to a web based forum only.
>
> EB
> -----------------------
> Win7 Pro 64-bit
> Civil 3D 2011 64-bit
> 6GB RAM
>
>
> On 6/1/2010 10:44 AM, Robert wrote:
>> I'm out of the loop here. What are you refering too?
>>
>> "wfb" wrote in message
>> news:6400587@discussion.autodesk.com...
>> Three (3) days and counting.
>>
>> Bill
>
> --

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[Anonymous]

Outlook will work fine as long as you read via RSS...

Matthew Anderson, PE


On 6/2/2010 9:18 AM, Srayos Endbringer wrote:
> Yes, no more using Outlook or Thunderbird to read the newsgroups.
> Autodesk is forcing everyone to use the web based system.
>
> EB
> -----------------------
> Win7 Pro 64-bit
> Civil 3D 2011 64-bit
> 6GB RAM
>
> On 6/1/2010 11:35 AM, Robert wrote:
>
>> So then using Outlook will be no more?
>>
>> "Srayos Endbringer" wrote in message
>> news:6400659@discussion.autodesk.com...
>> Autodesk, in their infinite wisdom, is getting rid of the newsgroups and
>> moving them to a web based forum only.
>>
>> EB
>> -----------------------
>> Win7 Pro 64-bit
>> Civil 3D 2011 64-bit
>> 6GB RAM
>>
>>
>> On 6/1/2010 10:44 AM, Robert wrote:
>>
>>> I'm out of the loop here. What are you refering too?
>>>
>>> "wfb" wrote in message
>>> news:6400587@discussion.autodesk.com...
>>> Three (3) days and counting.
>>>
>>> Bill
>>>
>> --
>>
> --
>

[Sinc]

I think what will be most disappointing is if, after the upgrade, we still have basically the same pathetically slow software.

Sometimes it works OK, and is only three or four times slower than most other forums. But other times, it's terrible. This morning is a great example. I click on a thread, and it takes several minutes to load. So I've been clicking on a thread, then switching to another browser tab and reading three or four threads in another forum, then switch back to this tab to read the thread that FINALLY loaded.

Some days it's even worse, and these forums are completely inaccessible for hours. I see an awful lot of "WebSeal" error pages.

-- Sinc
http://www.ejsurveying.com
http://www.quuxsoft.com