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Confessions of a Part Builder Junkie

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jdavis417
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Confessions of a Part Builder Junkie

Subtitle: The Rhyme of the Olde Constrainer

I.
Hark ye fellow travelers!
Hear my woeful tale.
Upon a sea of madness
day and night did I travail.

Cursed dragon that I rode
twisted, bucked and wham!
Broken and disheartened
of this quest for sweet yam-yam.

One after one,
by the star-dog-ed moon,
I woke alas to find,
new stratagem,
like ghost-white whales,
lay heavy on my mind.

Sleep? It was not fitful,
the software’s call and beck,
It’s lure of parametric bliss
albatross around my neck.

II.
This ship of fool sailed on.
A path was not the way!
An offset plane
was to my gain
and I was tricked to stay.
The piper wants his pay.

To model and dimension
calculate and reference too.
Now rest my brain an hour or three
was all that I could do.

A Boolean add,
and now subtract
with tables to control.
OOTB
variables
now put me in the hole.
(I tried to change their role.)

III.
Red star, (or point), at morning
doth crow part builders warning.
It modeled the same.
No explosion came.
I reckoned myself
ahead in the game.
A bitmap was made
And I staked my claim.
The structure alas
would never regain.

The drawing seemed to know it.
The listing tried to grow it.
New rules were applied
To styles at my side.
I shot like a stripe
to the end of pipe,
swap it in in plan,
apply rules in profile,
THE DANG THING WILL NOT SHOW IT!
Boy, did I ever blow it!

Here’s news for you if King or plebe,
I wrote this through a sleepless night.
If I were from the planet Zeeb,
Part Builder be my Zeebenite!

(Help me Nick Zeeben, your our only hope… message repeats…)


JD
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Message 2 of 15
Anonymous
in reply to: jdavis417

:))

Jon

wrote in message news:5876903@discussion.autodesk.com...
Subtitle: The Rhyme of the Olde Constrainer

I.
Hark ye fellow travelers!
Hear my woeful tale.
Upon a sea of madness
day and night did I travail.

Cursed dragon that I rode
twisted, bucked and wham!
Broken and disheartened
of this quest for sweet yam-yam.

One after one,
by the star-dog-ed moon,
I woke alas to find,
new stratagem,
like ghost-white whales,
lay heavy on my mind.

Sleep? It was not fitful,
the software's call and beck,
It's lure of parametric bliss
albatross around my neck.

II.
This ship of fool sailed on.
A path was not the way!
An offset plane
was to my gain
and I was tricked to stay.
The piper wants his pay.

To model and dimension
calculate and reference too.
Now rest my brain an hour or three
was all that I could do.

A Boolean add,
and now subtract
with tables to control.
OOTB
variables
now put me in the hole.
(I tried to change their role.)

III.
Red star, (or point), at morning
doth crow part builders warning.
It modeled the same.
No explosion came.
I reckoned myself
ahead in the game.
A bitmap was made
And I staked my claim.
The structure alas
would never regain.

The drawing seemed to know it.
The listing tried to grow it.
New rules were applied
To styles at my side.
I shot like a stripe
to the end of pipe,
swap it in in plan,
apply rules in profile,
THE DANG THING WILL NOT SHOW IT!
Boy, did I ever blow it!

Here's news for you if King or plebe,
I wrote this through a sleepless night.
If I were from the planet Zeeb,
Part Builder be my Zeebenite!

(Help me Nick Zeeben, your our only hope. message repeats.)


JD
Message 3 of 15
Anonymous
in reply to: jdavis417

Can you do the cliff notes version for me?

jdavis417 <>
|>Subtitle: The Rhyme of the Olde Constrainer
|>
|>I.
|>Hark ye fellow travelers!
|>Hear my woeful tale.
|>Upon a sea of madness
|>day and night did I travail.
|>
|>Cursed dragon that I rode
|>twisted, bucked and wham!
|>Broken and disheartened
|>of this quest for sweet yam-yam.
|>
|>One after one,
|>by the star-dog-ed moon,
|>I woke alas to find,
|>new stratagem,
|>like ghost-white whales,
|>lay heavy on my mind.
|>
|>Sleep? It was not fitful,
|>the software’s call and beck,
|>It’s lure of parametric bliss
|>albatross around my neck.
|>
|>II.
|>This ship of fool sailed on.
|>A path was not the way!
|>An offset plane
|>was to my gain
|>and I was tricked to stay.
|>The piper wants his pay.
|>
|>To model and dimension
|>calculate and reference too.
|>Now rest my brain an hour or three
|>was all that I could do.
|>
|>A Boolean add,
|>and now subtract
|>with tables to control.
|>OOTB
|>variables
|>now put me in the hole.
|>(I tried to change their role.)
|>
|>III.
|>Red star, (or point), at morning
|>doth crow part builders warning.
|>It modeled the same.
|>No explosion came.
|>I reckoned myself
|>ahead in the game.
|>A bitmap was made
|>And I staked my claim.
|>The structure alas
|>would never regain.
|>
|>The drawing seemed to know it.
|>The listing tried to grow it.
|>New rules were applied
|>To styles at my side.
|>I shot like a stripe
|>to the end of pipe,
|>swap it in in plan,
|>apply rules in profile,
|>THE DANG THING WILL NOT SHOW IT!
|>Boy, did I ever blow it!
|>
|>Here’s news for you if King or plebe,
|>I wrote this through a sleepless night.
|>If I were from the planet Zeeb,
|>Part Builder be my Zeebenite!
|>
|>(Help me Nick Zeeben, your our only hope… message repeats…)
|>
|>
|>JD
James Maeding
Civil Engineer and Programmer
jmaeding - at - hunsaker - dotcom
Message 4 of 15
Anonymous
in reply to: jdavis417

That's just what happens when one delves into the depths of the *%&^$ part
builder. 😉

"James Maeding" wrote in message
news:5877082@discussion.autodesk.com...
Can you do the cliff notes version for me?
Message 5 of 15
ekubaskie
in reply to: jdavis417

I'd laugh until I cried if I didn't really want to cry first!

Should you make AU 2008 I'll spot you a beer - and it need not be at the AUGI bash!

There are those in the other spheres of Deskery that grok Partbuilder, but for we Civils, PB is the field of alchemists and necromancers.

I could see an entire AU 2008 Power-track on the subject - and I'd sign up!
Message 6 of 15
Anonymous
in reply to: jdavis417

grok on bro! If I were the King of Mars, I'd commission a new and improved
PB for us all. Your choice of words suggests we share a common thread...
unfortunately, it seems to be unraveling and destroying my sweater.

I'm reminded of some famous guidelines;
1.) A tool must be safe to use.
2.) A tool must perform its function efficiently unless this would harm the
user.
3.) A tool must remain intact during its use unless its destruction is
required for its use or for safety.

Sound familiar?

We're All in This Together,

JD
Message 7 of 15
bookerT
in reply to: jdavis417

Is there a question in there?

Because I got bored reading looking for it.

Booker
Message 8 of 15
Anonymous
in reply to: jdavis417

bookerT,

How do you get a part that seems to "jump through all the hoops" in the Part
Builder to have a linework representation in a drawing? Does said linework
somehow relate to a Top Plane (do I have to use one?)? Can OOTB variables
(like SVPC) be used to my own will (as pipe diameter, for instance)? What
Type, Subtype and shape should the final setting be for a structure like a
Flared End Section? Can I "steal" variables from a junction structure for
use in what I'll save as an Inlet-Outlet structure?

I just downloaded a "vault" part from the Autodesk site that was created by
Mr. Zeeben. Part Bulder says it has errors (I think this has to do with
using the SHBW variable in a calculation). I cannot get it to display in my
drawing(s) either!!! Furthermore it causes my C3D session to crash upon
exiting the drawing. This suggests that my parametric part might have been
okay, just that I don't know how to get it to display. It and all it's
sizes did appear in the parts list... just wouldn't appear in the plan,
profile nor model (this seemed inconsistant, sometimes "nothing", others
cylinders or a 3D eccentric manhole... depending on what styles I fiddled
with).

If you've got answers, I'm recreating the darn thing now. I'll be waiting
with baited breath (or breath that smells like live bait)!

Thanks in advance,

JD
Message 9 of 15
bookerT
in reply to: jdavis417

hmm,

fraid I am not of much help on those questions yet. I have only hacked my way thru adding some custom pipe sizes I needed.

Booker
Message 10 of 15
Civil3Dave
in reply to: jdavis417

I was looking forward to you wingwall. Maybe next Christmas they will be in my Christmas sock at the end of my bed.

Head wall, wingwall, inet, outlet are all part of stromwater. They should be standard out of the box in civil3d.

Dave Growcott
Message 11 of 15
Anonymous
in reply to: jdavis417

I will be posting this thing soon for all to disect and (hopefully) show me
the error of my ways (pertaining to Part Builder, of course)! I have a
sneaking suspicion that I'm just not holding my mouth right...

I might be needing the harbor master, his son and a priest to row me back
into port... I'd like to give a "shout out" to my ol' buddy Sammy T for the
inspiration for my little ditty. Dana's reference to the "siren's song" put
me in a nautical state of mind. I'm playing the 80's song "Shakedown
Cruise" over and over till I get this bird off of my neck. It's getting
kinda rank, and the ghosts of those who man the rigging are doing a wild
dance...

There is no victory at sea, unless it "mutiny",

JD
Message 12 of 15
Civil3Dave
in reply to: jdavis417

Sometime I will watch out the corner of my eye to make shore that it's not working away by it self.
Maybe Part builder should be on the X-files.

It works but does it really? Who is in charge of it? P.A.R.T.B. ?

Dave
Message 13 of 15
Anonymous
in reply to: jdavis417

To whom it may concern,

Please find attached, one .zip file consisting of an attempt at a
parametric Flared End Section. It is named "Lucky 14" and I hope it's lucky
for you. If you can make this part display in a drawing please post back
and let us know what it takes to make it work.

After making a copy of your Parts Catalog, you can copy these files
into the US Imperial Structures folder at C:\Documents and Settings\All
Users\Application Data\Autodesk\C3D 2008\enu\Pipes Catalog\US Imperial
Structures . If you want it in a "Custom" folder that does not currently
exist, you can create it normally in the Part Builder and save a "dummy" or
copy of another part there as a placeholder (the folder deletes if empty).
Following the copy, you'll need to regen the Part Catalog by typing
partcatalogregen or selecting the root folder in the Parts Builder, and
choosing the rebuild and check options below. There are some additional
options available by right-clicking on a sub-directory folder, but they
appear to do the same thing.

Good Luck and Happy St. Patricks Day,

JD

Erin Go Bragh!
Message 14 of 15
trprice00
in reply to: jdavis417

First, thank you for providing something that Autodesk apparently could not, or would not.

Second,
I was able to make the Flared end section work correctly in plan view and 3 dimensionally in object viewer but I first had to open your part in part builder, then "save part family as", (for example I saved it as "18 FES"), then delete all of the values for the other pipes sizes. By doing this I can get the part to look correct in plan view and by snapping the handle to the center point of the end of pipe it will look correct when viewed with object viewer.

However, when the part is drawn in profile view it is inserted with the top-center of the structure at the center-end of pipe.

As the creator of this part (and obvious wizard of the part builder) I was hoping you may be able to provide a possible solution to this problem.

Thanks.
Message 15 of 15
tmaj2
in reply to: jdavis417

i seem to be having a problem getting your lucky 14.zip from the post, any ideas how i can get this file from you?

Thank you in advance Edited by: tmaj2@cox.net on Oct 1, 2008 10:19 AM

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