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kylenewcomer
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Civil 3D 2014 True Type Font Problem

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07-30-2013 01:47 PM

It is well documented that when text objects using a TrueType font (ie Arial) have a non zero elevation that they do not display correctly.  Before we upgraded (in May our office upgraded from C3D2009 to C3D2014) I was meticulous about making sure our text objects always had a zero elevation and we largely avoided any problems.

 

However in Civil 3D 2014 it seems that by default contour label objects and certain other label objects are given a non-zero elevation (they are assigned the elevation of the contour or in the case of a pipe network object, the manhole rim elevation).  Thus the text in these labels displays incorrectly.

 

This is a very frustrating problem as we are now faced with having to revert all of our styles back to .shx based fonts.  Does anyone know of a way to solve this problem? Is Autodesk aware of the bug?

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Re: Civil 3D 2014 True Type Font Problem

07-30-2013 02:44 PM in reply to: kylenewcomer

I tested this and I am confirming that mine acts the same way.

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Re: Civil 3D 2014 True Type Font Problem

07-30-2013 03:53 PM in reply to: kylenewcomer

What do you mean by "do not display correclty?" Can you post a screen shot?

 

I am using 2014. Arial font for contour labels looks fine and regular text objects at non-zero elevations look fine.

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Re: Civil 3D 2014 True Type Font Problem

07-31-2013 05:42 AM in reply to: tcorey

I've attached a couple of images showing the problem. One is a screen print of my AutoCAD window, the other is that same view printed to a pdf.  You have to look closely at the pdf to see the degredation in the text.

 

These images show pipe network objects. I tried to reproduce the problem with contour labels, and I may have been mistaken about those.

 

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Re: Civil 3D 2014 True Type Font Problem

07-31-2013 08:14 AM in reply to: kylenewcomer
Within the PC3 file, go to Graphic and verify that you are printing True Type Text as True Type within your PDF.
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Re: Civil 3D 2014 True Type Font Problem

07-31-2013 08:35 AM in reply to: kylenewcomer

You text is certainly jacked-up on the screen. Because you have to look closely to see it in the PDF, I assume the screen display is your main issue? What does it look like if you print directly to hard copy?

 

What happens as you zoom in on the text? Do the edges display better?

 

One other thing, what is your system setting regarding ClearType Text? Have you calibrated? Go to Control Panel, Display, Adjust ClearType Text. TrueType fonts are a Windows-supplied resource, so this setting is likely to be the culprit.

 

If that doesn't help, maybe you can post a drawing or send me one directly -- tcorey at shasta dot com. I would be interested if my system displays properly the same drawing that yours displays incorrectly.

 

Tim

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Re: Civil 3D 2014 True Type Font Problem

08-02-2013 08:36 AM in reply to: tcorey

I've checked my .pc3 files and the Windows ClearType Text Issues. Both of those settings are correct.  I'm working with a drawing that begain in C3D 2009 and it is giving me the most problems.  Arial font looks bold in my surface label spot elevations, but not in my MLeaders when I print it to 11X17 sheets. I've uploaded the file.

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Re: Civil 3D 2014 True Type Font Problem

11-21-2013 12:15 PM in reply to: kylenewcomer

Has this been resolved?  I am having the same problem since updating to 2014.  Arial text on point labels and surface spot elevations prints bold.  Regular text when sent to zero elevation plot correctly.

 

Tried taking off backroung mask, still plots bold. 

 

Strangely the line slope labels and surface slope labels are not printing bold.

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Re: Civil 3D 2014 True Type Font Problem

11-21-2013 12:31 PM in reply to: DanielBurns3250

I haven't come up with a solution, but in my case it seems like the problem is only with drawings that were created with older versions of AutoCAD.  For instance, I had several drawings I created with AutoCAD Civil 3D 2010 and I could never resolve the problem in these cases.  For these drawings, I just reverted back to using RomanS instead of using a TrueType font.

 

But for new drawings created with 2014, the text still displays poorly on the screen, but the prints are actually fine. I'd be curious to see if this is true for anyone else. It's hard to believe that AutoCAD has as much trouble as it does with such a basic element as displaying and printing text.

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Re: Civil 3D 2014 True Type Font Problem

11-22-2013 06:24 AM in reply to: kylenewcomer

I just started using 2014 and the problem is with a 2013 drawing.  My fix is to print using 2013.

 

I will see if it persists with other drawings.  I agree, it is very frustrating.

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