Can't adjust manholes in profile view

[martin.harlem]

Hi.

I ain't able to adjust the manholes in profile view.

Somebody know what this might be? See picture.

Thanks

[Jason.Hickey]

Is the issue that the manhole depth isn't adjusting or that the osnap isn't working? Certain osnaps have an issue working with profile grid views, so you might try zooming way in and eyeballing it OR manually editing the structure properties and keying in the invert elevation.

[lsimms1]

Is the pipe network in that drawing or referenced in?

Is the Sump elevation by depth or elevation (in structure properties)?

[martin.harlem]

The pipe network is not referenced in.
Tried sump elevation by depth and elevation, same result.

About the manhole depth, it won't even let me change the height of manhole manually in properties. When I hit apply the old value pops back.

Thanks for the replies:)

[lsimms1]

maybe try swapping the part for a different mh and see if it works on that one?

Do other mh's in the drawing work?

Did you get a warning message about a structure not in the catalogue?  (or something similar)

Is the catalogue on the computer or network?  Are you pointed to the right catalogue?

Could there be a 0 length pipe attached to the structure?

Is layer 0 turned on and thawed?

Are the C-layers on and thawed?

Are any layers locked?

In the plan portion of the drawing could there be a duplicate mh? (I know that is not supposed to happen, but believe me, it does)

[kearney-j5]

Go to structure properties, and as well as adjusting sump behaviour sub category, play around with rim to sump height. That should do it. Just had the same prob myself.

[gdevans1949]

And the New Member cuts straight to the heart of things. Good post...worked great.

[DaveDrahn]

I'm having this problem now and adjusting sump to rim and sump (and other) properties doesn't help.  It seems to be tied to the distance from the top of pipe to rim, but in the part properties and rule sets I don't find anything that would affect that.

Any other ideas?

Thanks,

Dave

[troma]

Cone height?

See if any of this helps you: http://beingcivil.typepad.com/my_weblog/2013/01/gravity-pipe-networks-always-being-pushed-around.htm...

[DaveDrahn]

That was it, part builder and the Barrel Pipe Clearance (SBPC).

Thank you!

[SheriLM]

I am having this same problem. Manholes will not update on my computer or one of my co-workers computer. But if we try it on another computer it magically updates! What settings could be the cause for this?

[DaveDrahn]

What do you mean by 'won't update'? This problem had to do with o being able to adjust the depth of the part beyond a certain point in profile view and was solved by making some changes in the part builder for that manhole. Same issue?

[SheriLM · Accepted solution]

The pipe and structure catelogs were saved to his local drive even though he said they were not. Problem solved!

[careysenior · Accepted solution]

I've had the same issue when swapping computers and working on a pipe network drawing...

SETNETWORKCATALOGUE  was the answer to get network cataloge the same as the one that was used for the pipe network.

Voila - problem solved.

[acookZ9QUZ]

I know old thread, but one other thing that it might be (it was in my case):

If you're adjusting the manhole at a junction of two different alignments (At a "T" or "Y"), if one of the pipes that you didn't draw on the profile (because it's on another profile) hasn't been adjusted to its final elevation (is still at or near 0), then the manhole it is connected to will not move above where the intersecting pipe connects to the manhole. It may not be obvious at first because the intersecting pipe isn't in the profile (as it shouldn't be), but it still affects the manhole at the intersection.

Saying the same thing in other words: if you have a "T," MH 1 at the junction, Line "A" is the through line, line "B" is the spur. Assuming all's connected in plan, then you start doing the profile of Line "A" first with all the manholes and pipes on Line A drawn in profile. If you haven't adjusted the elevation of the pipe for "B" from default, then MH 1 sump will never raise above where "B" connects. You don't see the pipe going to B because it's not drawn in profile. Properties will automatically adjust back to make sure you don't have a pipe going into dirt below the manhole.