I am trying to figure out how many DOTs use AutoCAD, plain or C3D. It appears that almost all state DOTs are using Microstation to the point I am worried I am getting left behind using C3D exclusively. The problem is that Microstation with all the bells and whistles is very expensive even before talking about training costs and learning curve. I find that my private clients use AutoCAD products, but I am wondering about just the DOTs, federal, state, and local.
I have one problem, because of my (bad) english, I don't know what "DOT" means (in your question, Google of course finds a lot).
Anyway, you should also be more specific to what geographic location you mean. The civil markets are so different that it might not be interesting to get an answer from anywhere in the world, but will be more interesting to get an info about your region.
- alfred -
By DOTs, I mean governmental Departments of Transportation in the US. I would also be interested around the globe, but originally I was only considering the US.
I live in TN and TDOT uses Microstation for everything. However, a lot of their work is outsourced to private firms and most of them that I know of use Autocad or a form of it for the design, and then convert their ACAD drawings to Microstation format for delivery. I personally do not know of a single civil engineering firm that designs using Microstation, but most of them own a single license of Microstation to make sure when they export their Autocad drawings that TDOT can use it.
I've heard that there are a few districts in Florida that are experimenting or have fully gone with C3D, but I don't know if that's true or not.
here is MassDOT that requires submittals in civil 3d: http://bimontherocks.typepad.com/my_weblog/2012/01
there also links on the blog for Flordia and Wisconsin going to civil 3d also
To the best of my knowlege the only DOT's standardized on C3D are California (as of late 2011), Alaska (migrated from LDT) and Wisconsin. Florida is using both C3D and Miscrostation based products but I believe they will be phasing out Bentley products as they move forward with C3D.
To inform the readers of this post..
47 DOTs use Microstation as a standard - 45 have standardized on one of Bentleys Civil Programs (GEOPAK or InRoads)
Caltrans still uses MicroStation. The move to Civil3D was a decission that was made after NOT allowing Bentleys Civil apps to compete (they were using Caice)
Florida has yet to complete a project using Civil3D and after nearly 3 yrs (as of last Dec) could not meet the standards checker with civil3d
I have not seen any major projects completed in Wisconson using Civil3D even after their decission to replace Caice with Civil3D (Zoo Interchange was designed using InRoads)
To date NO DOT has "switched" from a Bentley civil product to AutoDesk and I would take a little better look in TN .. If Im not mistaken Bentley may have more than one user down their... also GEOPAK doesnt run on AutoCAD :-)
Take care ... watch out for the cool aide
I live in TN and TDOT uses Microstation for everything.
Only because the lobbies are holding them back. After speaking with one of the directors in TDOT (for the past 5 years) they WANT Civil3D just can't get the bills passed to switch over.
I don't think any DOT will be scrapping MicroStation or Bentley's verticals (GEOPAK or InRoads) in one quick swoop. You have to think about current projects in the works. No DOT or consultant is going to switch in the middle of design.
However, since some of the DOT's are making a switch, its only a matter of time before the others follow. I suggest checking out each State DOT Design Specification sites and see what the current standards. Some will accept only DGN, others both DGN and Civil 3D, others may specifically state something like "...new projects to completed and submitted in Civil 3D 201X."
Also, as the industry switches to BIM standards I think you will see more and more DOT's making the jump. Which in turn will open up the talent pool, creating more competition between consultants, making the overall cost of design and construction of a project cheaper.
My 2cents anyways.
See the news post by Autodesk: http://news.autodesk.com/news/autodesk/20110629005
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