Assembly construction

[ronpemberton7479]

I am trying to construction an assembly. When I choose a subassembly and try to attach it to previous subassemblies, for instance attaching a lane transition or side slope to the outside of a lane, it wont always attach and I get the massage " Hook subassembly must be part of an assembly". Sometimes it attaches to the center marker point instead of the outside where I pick. Sometimes it works fine. Anyone know what is causing this?

[castled071049]

Can you post a screen shot of the assembly as it sits when you try to attach a subassembly piece to it?

[Anonymous]

It sounds like that "Lane" is not attached to the assembly. When you add a
subassembly, left click it in the properties palette, then click one of the
"markers" in your assembly. If you don't pick one of those markers, that
subassembly will not be attached. Then you get the error when you try to
attach another sub to it.

Right click the Lane and pick add to assembly.

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Matt Kolberg
Global CADD Systems - A division of Cansel

"ronpemberton7479" wrote in message news:6350749@discussion.autodesk.com...
> I am trying to construction an assembly. When I choose a subassembly and
> try to attach it to previous subassemblies, for instance attaching a lane
> transition or side slope to the outside of a lane, it wont always attach
> and I get the massage " Hook subassembly must be part of an assembly".
> Sometimes it attaches to the center marker point instead of the outside
> where I pick. Sometimes it works fine. Anyone know what is causing this?

[ronpemberton7479]

Screen shot of assembly.

[ronpemberton7479]

Tried the right click "Attach to assembly" and it still does the same thing. The first subassembly seems to be attaching OK.

[Anonymous]

It's tough to say from the screen shot (you should attach PNG file instead
of doc - some people won't open docs). Attach the DWG.

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Matt Kolberg
Global CADD Systems - A division of Cansel

"ronpemberton7479" wrote in message news:6350776@discussion.autodesk.com...
> Tried the right click "Attach to assembly" and it still does the same
> thing. The first subassembly seems to be attaching OK.

[ronpemberton7479]

Attached is .dwg

[Anonymous]

I found nothing wrong with the drawing. The first test is to select the
assembly marker and move it. All entities should follow. May need to regen
the drawing. The left side of the assembly did not move. Rt click, add to
assembly, select assembly and it jumps right in it.

Bill

wrote in message news:6350821@discussion.autodesk.com...
Attached is .dwg

[Anonymous]

I have never had a problem with this:

If you select a subassembly that will not attach, copy it, delete the
original, attach the copy. Never failed me yet.

Bill

[ronpemberton7479]

Have you tried that with the .dwg I sent? It can't get that to work either. It seems like I have no problem with the right side ( default attachment).
The way I am creating the left side is to insert with the default right attachment and change it to left side with the subassembly properties since there is no way to designate a left side during insertion. That works ok but it seems that from that point on I can't attach anything to the first lane even if I right click and add the first lane to the assembly again. Sometimes it will attach to the outside bottom marker instead of the outside top (finished grade) marker. I am picking right on the corner I am trying to attach to. I there an osnap issue? Am I creating the left side correctly?

[castled071049]

You select which side to attach the subassembly to via the Properties manager. There is a left and right side, and you can change sides in the middle of attaching subassemblies. Use this method.

[Anonymous]

That left lane is not attached to the assembly. I right click and choose
"Add to assembly". This behaves perfectly for me.

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Matt Kolberg
Global CADD Systems - A division of Cansel

"ronpemberton7479" wrote in message news:6350821@discussion.autodesk.com...
> Attached is .dwg
>

[Anonymous]

The left side is not attached to the assembly. "Add to assembly" in the
right click menu like I mentioned in my previous post works perfectly.

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Matt Kolberg
Global CADD Systems - A division of Cansel

"ronpemberton7479" wrote in message news:6350852@discussion.autodesk.com...
> Have you tried that with the .dwg I sent? It can't get that to work
> either. It seems like I have no problem with the right side ( default
> attachment).
> The way I am creating the left side is to insert with the default right
> attachment and change it to left side with the subassembly properties
> since there is no way to designate a left side during insertion. That
> works ok but it seems that from that point on I can't attach anything to
> the first lane even if I right click and add the first lane to the
> assembly again. Sometimes it will attach to the outside bottom marker
> instead of the outside top (finished grade) marker. I am picking right on
> the corner I am trying to attach to. I there an osnap issue? Am I creating
> the left side correctly?

[ronpemberton7479]

So all subsequent attachments connect properly to the left side?

[Anonymous]

Yes.

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Matt Kolberg
Global CADD Systems - A division of Cansel

"ronpemberton7479" wrote in message news:6350976@discussion.autodesk.com...
> So all subsequent attachments connect properly to the left side?

[ronpemberton7479]

I don't know, I'm following all the suggestions. It still wants to connect to the assembly baseline or to the bottom end instead of the top end of the previous subassembly. If you could use the osnap for insertion point instead of the program deciding where to insert it might work for me. Thanks anyway guys.

[Anonymous]

Select the marker at the point you want it placed....using the current Code
Set this is the Circle at the end of the subassembly. Do not use Osnaps,
just pick the circle.

"ronpemberton7479" wrote in message news:6351037@discussion.autodesk.com...
> I don't know, I'm following all the suggestions. It still wants to connect
> to the assembly baseline or to the bottom end instead of the top end of
> the previous subassembly. If you could use the osnap for insertion point
> instead of the program deciding where to insert it might work for me.
> Thanks anyway guys.

[ronpemberton7479]

That's what I'm doing. If it does attach, it attaches to a different circle than I'm picking. I'm just saying since it won't attach at the circle I'm picking it would be good if you could use osnaps.

[Anonymous]

Not sure what to say. It's working perfectly here. Maybe start from
scratch with a brand new assembly.

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Matt Kolberg
Global CADD Systems - A division of Cansel

"ronpemberton7479" wrote in message news:6351430@discussion.autodesk.com...
> That's what I'm doing. If it does attach, it attaches to a different
> circle than I'm picking. I'm just saying since it won't attach at the
> circle I'm picking it would be good if you could use osnaps.

[KCCDCONSERVE]

I have had this problem in the past and am having it again. I read through this post and tried the suggestions. No matter what I do, no subassemblies insert on the left. I can change the side to left in the subassembly palette, insert the subassembly and it appears on the right. I can right click the subassembly in the palette and select "apply tool properties to subassembly" and the selected subassemly will change all properties except the side. If I select the subassembley that was inserted on the right and try to change the side to left in the properties palette, the side option is greyed out and it can't be changed. Any other suggestions?