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2014 Template Drawing Setup

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Message 1 of 20
paulgalli5397
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2014 Template Drawing Setup

so, here's the deal, I have a 2011 template drawing that I've added all the information to that I know about how to survey in C3D.  I've used it for a few years now and it works great for us.  We now have to update it for used in 2014.  IT has told me that I need to create a new 2014 drawing and bring the 2011 styles, groups, etc. into it that way.  I used the management import tool to do this in 2014.  Seems like all the styles, etc. came over just fine.  Anyone know of a way to test whether or not the template drawing has any garbage in it, such as purging and auditing, so all the bad stuff is gone?  Any suggestions would be awesome.  Thanks!

C3D - 2014, Sincpac Addon
Land Surveyor
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Message 2 of 20
Joe-Bouza
in reply to: paulgalli5397

You have answered your own question. Audit and purge. You may also be aware that you can purge any style youe dont want via the ribbon
Thank you

Joseph D. Bouza, P.E. (one of 'THOSE' People)

HP Z210 Workstation
Intel Xeon CPU E31240 @ 3.30 Hz
12 GB Ram


Note: Its all Resistentialism, so keep calm and carry on

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Message 3 of 20
mathewkol
in reply to: paulgalli5397

That import tool does bring in styles and some settings, but know that it misses some very important settings, such as everything in the "Object Layers" tab in Drawing settings and the Ambient settings tabs.  There are several other things, see link below.  I've had many of my default styles become not the default when attempting to use this command.

http://docs.autodesk.com/CIV3D/2014/ENU/index.html?url=filesCUG/topichead_0.htm,topicNumber=CUGd30e1...

 

Don't get me wrong, it's a great command, but it has its limitations.  RECOVERing the 2011 file using 2014 then saving as 2014 is generally all one needs to do.  True, on some ocassions, this is not without its faults, but those can generally be worked around.

 

 

I'm curious why IT is mandating how you deal with your CAD stuff.  If the DWT has been working great for you, what "bad stuff" would there be?

 

 

Matt Kolberg
SolidCAD Professional Services
http://www.solidcad.ca /
Message 4 of 20
AllenJessup
in reply to: mathewkol


@mathewkol wrote:

I'm curious why IT is mandating how you deal with your CAD stuff.  

 


Maybe because their IT is like my IT. Don't know anything about Autodesk products and don't want to know.
 

The OP might want to read THIS post and THIS post to get an idea of what others are doing and having trouble with.

 

Allen Jessup



Allen Jessup
Engineering Specialist / CAD Manager

Message 5 of 20
Joe-Bouza
in reply to: mathewkol

Hi Matt
Are there 2014 OOTB styles one may miss out on by using the recover/ save technique? Such as presssure pipes for example?
Thank you

Joseph D. Bouza, P.E. (one of 'THOSE' People)

HP Z210 Workstation
Intel Xeon CPU E31240 @ 3.30 Hz
12 GB Ram


Note: Its all Resistentialism, so keep calm and carry on

64 Bit Win10 OS
Message 6 of 20
wfberry
in reply to: Joe-Bouza

Joseph:

 

If I can recall, when I brought my "old" template forward I was wondering the same thing.  It magically appeared anyway.

 

Bill

 

Message 7 of 20
Joe-Bouza
in reply to: wfberry

Hi Bill
Thats some magic!

let me get the steps straight you recover a 2011 file that does not have pressure pipes or cant styles and maybe others I am unare of and somehow these newer version styles came to be? That sounds truly remarkable. Can you explain how that can possibly happen?
Thank you

Joseph D. Bouza, P.E. (one of 'THOSE' People)

HP Z210 Workstation
Intel Xeon CPU E31240 @ 3.30 Hz
12 GB Ram


Note: Its all Resistentialism, so keep calm and carry on

64 Bit Win10 OS
Message 8 of 20
mathewkol
in reply to: paulgalli5397

Joe, Bill is right. As you open old files in newer software, default styles get automatically created for objects you never had before, like pressure pipes. Of course, if you don't like the default styles and you oprefer the ones in the NCS DWT you can easily import those.
Matt Kolberg
SolidCAD Professional Services
http://www.solidcad.ca /
Message 9 of 20
wfberry
in reply to: Joe-Bouza

Joe:

 

Let me make this perfectly clear.  I said "if I recall . . ."  It HAS been a while.  DO NOT take it to the bank.

 

Smiley Wink

 

Bill

Message 10 of 20
AllenJessup
in reply to: Joe-Bouza

It might be possible to insert the recovered drawing into an OOTB template.

 

Allen



Allen Jessup
Engineering Specialist / CAD Manager

Message 11 of 20
mathewkol
in reply to: paulgalli5397

Joe, it IS magic 🙂

Every 2013 drawing MUST have at least one style for every object. As you open a file there is a check to see if this is true. If there are any missing, they are created as default styles.
Matt Kolberg
SolidCAD Professional Services
http://www.solidcad.ca /
Message 12 of 20
Joe-Bouza
in reply to: mathewkol

Cool!
Thank you

Joseph D. Bouza, P.E. (one of 'THOSE' People)

HP Z210 Workstation
Intel Xeon CPU E31240 @ 3.30 Hz
12 GB Ram


Note: Its all Resistentialism, so keep calm and carry on

64 Bit Win10 OS
Message 13 of 20
Joe-Bouza
in reply to: wfberry

Matt confirmed how the majic is accomplished! Civil3d knows what the default styles are and makes them if they do not exist.
Thank you

Joseph D. Bouza, P.E. (one of 'THOSE' People)

HP Z210 Workstation
Intel Xeon CPU E31240 @ 3.30 Hz
12 GB Ram


Note: Its all Resistentialism, so keep calm and carry on

64 Bit Win10 OS
Message 14 of 20
paulgalli5397
in reply to: AllenJessup

Thanks Everyone:

 

This helps.  Our IT is leaving for Greener Pastures, so cannot help with the transition, knows way more about C3D than I do. 

 

We are surveyors, not IT folks or software guys, so I am mostly concerned with what I can do wrong here.  I really like the links that showed me what others are doing, and where the problems are.  That helps the most. 

 

Thanks for all the help.  Any further thoughts would be appreciated. 

 

This sounds like a much larger job than I'd hoped.

 

 

Paul

Surveyor

C3D - 2014, Sincpac Addon
Land Surveyor
Message 15 of 20
Joe-Bouza
in reply to: mathewkol

Not as magical as I believed. I was thinking all the NCS styles, just getting standard isn't quite as impressive <G>
Thank you

Joseph D. Bouza, P.E. (one of 'THOSE' People)

HP Z210 Workstation
Intel Xeon CPU E31240 @ 3.30 Hz
12 GB Ram


Note: Its all Resistentialism, so keep calm and carry on

64 Bit Win10 OS
Message 16 of 20
mathewkol
in reply to: Joe-Bouza

Well, I did say the default styles came in and if you wanted NCS you'd have to copy them 🙂

Matt Kolberg
SolidCAD Professional Services
http://www.solidcad.ca /
Message 17 of 20
Joe-Bouza
in reply to: wfberry

"Standard" is not my idea of David Copperfield'esque kind of trick <G>
I was thinking OOTB NCS styles
Thank you

Joseph D. Bouza, P.E. (one of 'THOSE' People)

HP Z210 Workstation
Intel Xeon CPU E31240 @ 3.30 Hz
12 GB Ram


Note: Its all Resistentialism, so keep calm and carry on

64 Bit Win10 OS
Message 18 of 20
Joe-Bouza
in reply to: mathewkol

Yes you did, but I was a kid full of wild eyed wonder expecting miricales <G>

it a good Good tip I will out to use. I dreaded the idea of going through all the ambient settings.
Thank you

Joseph D. Bouza, P.E. (one of 'THOSE' People)

HP Z210 Workstation
Intel Xeon CPU E31240 @ 3.30 Hz
12 GB Ram


Note: Its all Resistentialism, so keep calm and carry on

64 Bit Win10 OS
Message 19 of 20
wfberry
in reply to: Joe-Bouza

Pardon me Joe.  But when I think of miracles, I think of your spelling.

 

Smiley Very Happy

 

Bill

 

 

Message 20 of 20
Joe-Bouza
in reply to: wfberry

I have found the light! ... and the spell check button Smiley Very Happy

Thank you

Joseph D. Bouza, P.E. (one of 'THOSE' People)

HP Z210 Workstation
Intel Xeon CPU E31240 @ 3.30 Hz
12 GB Ram


Note: Its all Resistentialism, so keep calm and carry on

64 Bit Win10 OS

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