AutoCAD Architecture

[#1]

This is for AutoCAD Architecture 2012,  I have developed my floor plans and am adding spaces after the fact.  The spaces are generating as expected.  I am using the out-of-the-box Room Tag (not Project Based).  When it inserts, the tag reads Room and 000.  I read that I needed to add the Property Sets, so I went to Properties and under Extended Data I added the only available items which are Room Finish Objects and Room Objects.  Under Room Objects I am putting the room name and number, but it does not effect the tag.  When I look at the extended data of the tag, it shows the correct information.

What am I doing wrong?  I last used R2005 Architectural Desktop, but this is not an upgrade and I am not working with older blocks.  This is all out of the box.

[#2]

Did you migrate content from the 2005 release?  I do not have access to ACA 2012, but based on 2011, the current out-of-the-box object-based Property Set for Spaces is called SpaceObjects, not RoomObjects.  This change was made in the 2007 release.  You say you are using the current "blocks"; if so, the Schedule Tag you applied would be looking for properties in the SpaceObjects Property Set.  If you are working with properties in a Property Set called RoomObjects, then the current Schedule Tag will not reference any of those properties.

Was the file you are editing started in the 2005 release, or based on a template from/migrated from the 2005 release?  The out-of-the-box template for 2012 should have the SpaceObjects Property Set in it already.  Even if it did not, using the current out-of-the-box Room Tag should import this Property Set when you used it.  Did you use a Tool palette tool to add the tags?  If so, right click that tool and choose Properties from the context menu.  Under the Basic category, under the General subcategory, there should be a property called "Property def location".  Does that have a file specified, and, if so, is it the out-of-the-box one for the 2012 release (not migrated from 2005)?  My installation of ACA 2011, with Windows Vista as the operating system, points to this file:

C:\ProgramData\Autodesk\ACA 2011\enu\Styles\Imperial\Schedule Tables (Imperial).dwg

(your location will vary - at the least, "ACA 2011" would be "ACA 2012" and if you are using XP, then it would be under Documents and Settings\All Users\, not Program Data).

[#3]

I forgot that I opened an older file that had a bunch of wall styles in it that I wanted.  Perhaps it is messing with the Space? The room tags in the old file are Aec3_Room_Tag and the new standard tag I am trying to use is Aec8_Room_Tag, so I am pretty confident it is not the tag itself that is giving me problems.  I think the problem is that the information I need is missing from the SpaceObjects Property Set.

I am using a tool pallete to apply the space and tag.  When I look at the Property Sets of both the space and the tag, SpaceObjects is listed.  The problem is the only information listed under SpaceObjects is related to size.  Nowhere does it show room name or number or room finishes.  That is the information I really need so I can generate my finish scheduled.  I read in another post that the name of the space under the Design tab of the Properties Pallete is where the new tags get name from, but I have changed the name of the space and it does not work either.

When I check the path of the tag it is exactly as you noted below except 2012.  I am on Windows 7 64 bit.

I really don't care about the room size, I need room name, number, and finishes.  Is there a place to edit the SpaceObject Property set?

Thanks for the help.

[#4]

OK, I figured out how to edit the Property Sets.  I went into the SpaceObjects and added the stuff I need.  It seems to be working.  Is that the correct fix or have I messed up something else I don't realize just yet?

[#5 · Accepted solution]

As noted in the blog article I referenced in my previous post, ADT 2006 had a SpaceObjects Property Set Definition [PSD] that contained all automatic properties for Spaces, which, in more recent releases, are now in the SpaceStyles PSD.  If you were working in an older file, or somehow brought the older Property Sets into a new file while copying Wall Styles (perhaps you also copied a Space?), then having the old SpaceObjects PSD in the file is what caused the problem.

When you use add a tag tool, in addition to any Property Sets specified in the tool, ACA will look at the Property Sets referenced by the specified tag and then looks at the target drawing file to see if a Property Set of that name already exists.  If not, it imports the Property Set.  If a Property Set of that name does exist in the file, ACA does nothing.  Unfortunately, it does not look to see if the Property Set in the target drawing actually contains the necessary properties.  Adding the properties to the Property Set manually, as you did, is one solution.  In the future, you may find it easier to use the Style Manager to copy the current version of the Property Set(s) from the Property Set source file (as given in the tool) and overwrite the existing version(s).