Spaces still not fixed in 2011

[Anonymous]

I have checked in ADT2006 and found that spaces would stretch correctly
(ignoring whether the centre was in the selection window). So this was not
the behaviour in ADT6 and I can't imagine when it would be desirable.

Unfortunately this still hasn't been fixed in 2011. Can it be reverted to
the old behavioour.

[Brian_Adams]

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[Anonymous]

Thanks BA. I will login. I have a few more suggestions! 🙂

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[paul.mcardle]

Hi Nathan,

I am not sure how you would like this to behave. Can you provide an example of where you think this is not behaving as you would like it to, and a description of the results you would like to see?

Thanks.

[ntellery]

Sure Paul.  It should behave much as areas did in 2006 and before. If you stretch a space it should stretch not move! For eg.  I have a design that uses various spaces for rooms, and larger groups of areas. The client wants to enlarge the building and I use the old stretch and window command, and selecting a slice through the building enlarge.  Every shifts or stretches as required.  Beautiful. (Try that in ArchiCAD!)  No wait.  instead of stretching like everything else, certain spaces have completely moved despite being only half in the stretch zone.  Wonderful - I now have to go and reset all the 'moved' spaces back to their correct position. (these have been placed manually not auto).  The problem is simple.  a stretch should ignore the 'centre' of the space and just stretch the object.

[leothebuilder]

Just tried that. Places some spaces manually and stretched just fine. As long as you dont run the stretch window past midpoint of the space object. If you window over the halfway point, the space object will move.

Otherwise the behaviour is fine.

Better still if you use the 'generate" option and make them associative. Just move a bounding wall and the space object will increase accordingly.

[leothebuilder]

P.s. I forgot to mention, if you use associate spaces you can stretch them if the selection window is past the halfway or midpoint of the space object. You can toggle associative or non-associative by in the properties dialog box.

[ntellery]

"if you don't stretch the middle bit" is not really acceptable.  If you stretch a wall past the middle bit does it still stretch or move the whole lot?  No.  So stretching a building, everything behaves the same except spaces!

As I don't use spaces on a room by room bases I don't use the auto place function so that's no good to me.  I gather such an attached space will ignore a stretch command and just follow the wall?

Is there any reason functionally why spaces have to behave differently?

I use spaces for lots of things seeing that slabs are so awkward and slow to edit so spaces behaving is important to me.