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Opening Autocad Architecture 2003 files into 2010

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Message 1 of 20
dakshesh
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Opening Autocad Architecture 2003 files into 2010

I have a .DWG files (house plan) created in Autocad Architecture 2003. I just installed Autocad 2010 architecture trial version and opened the file. Drawing opening up just fine but everything is a line, i.e. all windows, doors, sidings, walls, etc. I was hoping that all object types would be carried over from 2003.

I was simply trying to modify the window sizes but since all objects are just lines, can't really open up properties dialog to update the window dimensions.

Any suggestions?

Thanks
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Message 2 of 20
Anonymous
in reply to: dakshesh

Might need to be more specific. There never was an Autocad Architecture
2003.

Maybe you mean Architectural Desktop 3.3? Someone else may help me out but
I think that version was based on Acad 2002 and used the Acad 2000 drawing
format. The next drawing format version was 2004 and was the first time
Architectural Desktop used the year version format of 2004 in it's name.

Otherwise, it sounds like the drawing could have been exported as a plain
Acad drawing which will explode the walls, doors and windows into lines arcs
and circles.
Message 3 of 20
Anonymous
in reply to: dakshesh

Post your original DWG file for all to examine. If it is too big to post,
use a free service like this:
http://wikisend.com/

--
Dean Saadallah
http://LTisACAD.blogspot.com
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Message 4 of 20
dakshesh
in reply to: dakshesh

Thanks for your comments. I think you are right, it was created using Desktop 3.x. One of the .DWG file is attached. I would greatly appreciate any help you can provide.

Thanks
Message 5 of 20
Anonymous
in reply to: dakshesh

As noted by Joel above, all you have is a line drawing. There is no AEC
content in your file (no Window objects, no wall objects, no door objects).
It may have been drawn like that, or exploded and reduced to this state at
some earlier stage.

AutoCAD Architecture 2010, like AutoCAD Desktop 3.3, will not automatically
convert line entities to AEC objects. You will need to redraw these with the
correct object types in either program. Wish I had better news for you.

--
Dean Saadallah
http://LTisACAD.blogspot.com
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Message 6 of 20
dakshesh
in reply to: dakshesh

Thanks for your speedy response. These are un-exploded files that my architect uses on his Autocad Desktop, so I guess Autocad 2010 just doesn't like them. Is there ANY way for me to use these files? All I am trying to do is update some windows size information, I would hate to play around with line entities.

Thanks again.
Message 7 of 20
Anonymous
in reply to: dakshesh

The file you posted was not drawn using any ADT3.3 AEC commands: I just
opened it in AutoCAD Architecture 2006 and LT2005 on my old laptop, they are
still only lines.

You can draw with lines in ADT3.3 and AutoCAD Architecture 2010, it's
basically core AutoCAD: I suspect that is all your architect did, draw
lines.

Ask the architect directly and find out the truth: he may either have sent
you an exploded file (looks too clean to be that) or they only draw using
lines. We all have old files with AEC content that remain intact in newer
versions.

No help for your need I know, sorry once again.

--
Dean Saadallah
http://LTisACAD.blogspot.com
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Message 8 of 20
Anonymous
in reply to: dakshesh

I agree. Sounds like the file has been dumbed down to Acad


"Joel" wrote in message
news:6385230@discussion.autodesk.com...
Might need to be more specific. There never was an Autocad Architecture
2003.

Maybe you mean Architectural Desktop 3.3? Someone else may help me out but
I think that version was based on Acad 2002 and used the Acad 2000 drawing
format. The next drawing format version was 2004 and was the first time
Architectural Desktop used the year version format of 2004 in it's name.

Otherwise, it sounds like the drawing could have been exported as a plain
Acad drawing which will explode the walls, doors and windows into lines arcs
and circles.
Message 9 of 20
dakshesh
in reply to: dakshesh

I talked to architect and he confirmed that he used Autocad Architectural 3.3 to create the file. If anyone has v3.3, can you please give it try?
Message 10 of 20
Anonymous
in reply to: dakshesh

He might have used 3.3 but he can still draw in autocad entities - lines and
circles.

wrote in message news:6386574@discussion.autodesk.com...
I talked to architect and he confirmed that he used Autocad Architectural
3.3 to create the file. If anyone has v3.3, can you please give it try?
Message 11 of 20
Anonymous
in reply to: dakshesh

Again, one more time: you can has ADT3.3 and only draw in lines. That is
what your architect did. There is no AEC content in your file.

ADT 3.3 discussion area is at (don't forget to include your line drawing):
http://discussion.autodesk.com/forums/forum.jspa?forumID=51

--
Dean Saadallah
http://LTisACAD.blogspot.com
--
Message 12 of 20
dakshesh
in reply to: dakshesh

another file is attached, front elevation. You guys are probably right architect drew lines, but isn't that unlikely since there are windows, door, etc. and who in their right mind would waste time drawing lines if Autocad already has library of objects, etc?

Moderator: Anyway to move this thead to ADT 3.3 group?

Thanks
Message 13 of 20
ToanDN
in reply to: dakshesh

A small percentage of ADT/ACA users are still using the software as ACAD, you know, like 90%.
Since the architect drew lines so I highly doubt the possibility of moving the thread to the ADT3.3 group would help turning them into AEC objects.
Message 14 of 20
Anonymous
in reply to: dakshesh

For what it's worth, I have some drawings that I created with ADT
version 1, on Release 14, that open just fine in the current version of
AutoCAD Architecture. I have to agree with the others here that the
person who created those drawings either exploded the AEC entities, or
drew everything with lines in the first place.

--

Anthony Mason
http://dailyoccurrence.wordpress.com/
Message 15 of 20
Anonymous
in reply to: dakshesh

The elevations look like something Visionrez.com would produce but the
layers definitely look like manually drawn.


wrote in message news:6386891@discussion.autodesk.com...
another file is attached, front elevation. You guys are probably right
architect drew lines, but isn't that unlikely since there are windows, door,
etc. and who in their right mind would waste time drawing lines if Autocad
already has library of objects, etc?

Moderator: Anyway to move this thead to ADT 3.3 group?

Thanks
Message 16 of 20
Anonymous
in reply to: dakshesh

This one is a line drawing too, lots of hatches, no AEC content. Turn the
UCSICON on, it's a flat Z=0 drawing of a facade, with an outline above.

Time to renegotiate that Architect's fee if you have higher expectations or
needs.

--
Dean Saadallah
http://LTisACAD.blogspot.com
--
Message 17 of 20
Anonymous
in reply to: dakshesh

Oh, and I love the titleblock in modelspace, with snap points to "window":
they don't even use Layouts. Another very obvious clue.

--
Dean Saadallah
http://LTisACAD.blogspot.com
--
Message 18 of 20
Anonymous
in reply to: dakshesh

>who in their right mind would waste time drawing lines if Autocad already
>has library of objects, etc?

I remember starting using ADT3.3 around that time. It took a lot of time to
get adjusted to learning to use the AEC objects. Certainly nothing as nice
as the elevation file could have been produced with ADT3.3 without a near
master using ADT. The drawings are nicely drawn and typical of that period
and of many still using ACA. Drafter's used to manual projection have a
much higher degree of control over what their final result looks like when
they draw it manually.

>Moderator: Anyway to move this thead to ADT 3.3 group?
Moving this thread to the ADT3.3 would accomplish little since it is obvious
to those of use using ACA that these drawings were drawn in ADT3.3 as if it
were ACAD 2000i. If you own ACA 2010, then this is the right place to talk
about the program you are using.

You can convert the linework to ACA objects by using the drawings as an
underlay in your constructs. Chances are though that you would gain little
by that process.


wrote in message news:6386891@discussion.autodesk.com...
another file is attached, front elevation. You guys are probably right
architect drew lines, but isn't that unlikely since there are windows, door,
etc. and who in their right mind would waste time drawing lines if Autocad
already has library of objects, etc?

Moderator: Anyway to move this thead to ADT 3.3 group?

Thanks
Message 19 of 20
dakshesh
in reply to: dakshesh

I talked to the architect and he said he prefers using lines since he gives him more control !! I am shocked that even door symbols are made up of lines and arch, it's just hard to believe.

If he is doing everything by lines, how are all floors and elevations referenced with each other? i.e. If window is windended on the main floor, I am guessing he would have to remember to widen it on the elevation manually?

I need to make some chanes to the plan and I wish he had created my plans properly.. now I have to rely on him to update minor changes, otherwise I could have done it myself. I asked him to resize a room and he said it will take him half week! Edited by: dakshesh on May 8, 2010 11:38 PM
Message 20 of 20
Anonymous
in reply to: dakshesh

Bummer. On every point.

On 5/8/2010 4:39 PM, dakshesh wrote:
> I talked to the architect and he said he prefers using lines since he gives him more control !! I am shocked that even door symbols are made up of lines and arch, it's just hard to believe.
>
> If he is doing everything by lines, how are all floors and elevations referenced with each other? i.e. If window is windended on the main floor, I am guessing he would have to remember to widen it on the elevation manually?
>
> I need to make some chanes to the plan and I wish he had created my plans properly.. now I have to rely on him to update minor changes, otherwise I could have done it myself. I asked him to resize a room and he said it will take him half week!
>
> Edited by: dakshesh on May 8, 2010 11:38 PM
>

--
Anthony Mason
http://dailyoccurrence.wordpress.com/

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