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    Active Contributor
    Posts: 31
    Registered: ‎06-22-2005

    O.H. door Display

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    07-12-2012 09:37 AM

    Overhead doors have a negitive dimension for the frame, since the frame is not in the opening but attached to the wall.

    So for a 10'-0" door you get a 10'-0" opening...right?

     

    Unless you are measuring the door from an elevation, then the software adds the frame to the opening.

    So now it appears that there is a 10'-4" opening.

     

    If I remove the frame, this works in elevation, but the plan view now haven't any frame.

    Any suggestions?

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    leothebuilder
    Posts: 475
    Registered: ‎07-05-2010

    Re: O.H. door Display

    07-17-2012 06:53 AM in reply to: jeffrey.vrana

    Not sure what your question or the problem is.

    Overhead coiling doors and overhead sectional doors in ACA indicate the size of the door as between the frames or as you mentioned, the wall opening size.

    Whilst this is reality not true, the frames (tracks) are mounted to the inside of the wall at the edge of the opening. The door actually extends past the opening size into the tracks.

     

    It is common convention to label the door width of such a door as the opening size.

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    Re: O.H. door Display

    07-17-2012 07:00 AM in reply to: leothebuilder

    Looking at it in plan, everything you say is true.

    Now take a look in an elevation view and measure the door opening, you get the frame IN the opening.

    Look at the Door Elevation jpg.

     

    We had to creat a new "Frame" block for the door in plan, so there isn't a frame showing in elevation.

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    leothebuilder
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    Re: O.H. door Display

    07-17-2012 07:23 AM in reply to: jeffrey.vrana

    Just replicated that situation and you're absolutely correct. In elevation and isometric the opening now appears as 10'-4" with the frame inside the opening.

     

    Wazzup with that Autodesk ??

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    Registered: ‎10-11-2008

    Re: O.H. door Display

    10-22-2012 11:04 AM in reply to: jeffrey.vrana

    With the OOTB overhead door from the palette, which has the frame as -2,  I cannot replicate your problem.  Both the plan, model and elevations all show correctly.   I get the results shown in your attachment only by changing the frame to a positive 2.     I'm using 2012.

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    Re: O.H. door Display

    10-23-2012 05:38 AM in reply to: jeffrey.vrana

    This is true for the O.H. sectional door, the coiling O.H. door is the one presenting this problem.

    Thanks for the input.

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    Re: O.H. door Display

    10-23-2012 07:58 AM in reply to: jeffrey.vrana

    Change the Property Dimensions to Measure to Inside of frame, and both the elevation and plan views will show the same dimensions.     It appears to be the result of using a door that has a Profile versus one that uses a pre-defined shape.   

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