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    jreeder
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    Registered: ‎05-18-2011

    Best method for creating and deforming an assembly of ultra-thin layers

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    10-03-2012 07:09 PM

    Hi,

     

    I want to make 3D assemblies of very thin layers (the layers have 1000000:1 lateral to depth dimensions) in AutoCAD. Currently I make them in PTC Creo, but I would like to move to using AutoCAD instead.

     

    What is the best method to do this? Specifially, how can I extrude multiple (6-8) ultra-thin layers individually, then join them in an assembly which I can bend and flex to make 3D surfaces? I have attached a Keyshot render of a design I did in Creo. I would like to make the exact same structure in AutoCAD. The design is 6 layers stacked on top of each other, joined as one part, than manipulated into a complex, 3D shape.

     

    Also, is AutoCAD the best Autodesk software to do this? I have access to the student versions of the Autodesk software if it makes a differene.

     

    Cheers,

    Jonathan

     

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    Re: Best method for creating and deforming an assembly of ultra-thin layers

    10-04-2012 03:29 AM in reply to: jreeder

    Hi,

     

    an additional question: do you need that for visualisation reasons? Or where do you get the bending-rules/formulas/base-geometry/... from?

     

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    jreeder
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    Re: Best method for creating and deforming an assembly of ultra-thin layers

    10-04-2012 03:41 AM in reply to: alfred.neswadba

    The bending rules in the picture are two 20 degree twists on two different datum planes done in Creo, and are purely aesthetic.

     

    I would like the ability to manipulate the film by rotating or bending about datum planes or axis, or something that will give that effect.

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    dgorsman
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    Re: Best method for creating and deforming an assembly of ultra-thin layers

    10-04-2012 10:54 AM in reply to: jreeder

    AutoCAD probably isn't the best tool for this.  Duck into the Inventor forum - if thats not appropriate I'm sure they can give you a better idea of what will be.  You might end up using Inventor or a similar product to do the design, then something like Maya or 3DSMAX to do the twisting.

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    Re: Best method for creating and deforming an assembly of ultra-thin layers

    10-07-2012 01:57 PM in reply to: dgorsman

    tha tlooks almost like flexible semiconductor circuitry.  hmmm...

    i wonder what our R&D guys use.  if it werent hush hush, i'm sure they'd tell me.

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    jreeder
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    Re: Best method for creating and deforming an assembly of ultra-thin layers

    10-07-2012 11:15 PM in reply to: Y0UNGBL00D

    dgorsman: Thanks, I took your advice and I'm learning Inventor now, we'll see how it goes.

     

    YOUNGBL00D: Good guess, it's a multi-plexed array of organic transistors. Any chance you can find out what your guys use for CAD?

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