blocks insert at wrong in scale in 2014, correct scale in 2012

[johnsnow]

I am trying to insert a block into a file in Acad 2014 and it comes in too large.  If I insert the same block into the same file using Acad 2012 it comes in at the correct scale.  Doesn't seem to matter if insunits is 0 or 1, or insunitsdefsource or insunitsdeftarget are also 0 or 1.

There must be some variable or variables I'm missing.

[maxim_k]

Hi,

Could you describe how you insert this block?
Are the block definition already inside the drawing? Or you insert it with copy-paste, or from Tool palette, or from file on disk, or ... ?

Maxim

[johnsnow]

Normally I insert it using a lisp routine.  When it inserted incorrectly (way too large), deleted all the instances of the block and purged the drawing.  I tried re-inserting the block using the lisp routine, with the "insert" command, and by dragging it in from Windows Explorer.  It comes in 16 times larger than it should, 2 inches on a side versus 1/8-inch. 

I have set insunits to 0 or 1.  I have set insunitsdefsource and ..target to 0 or 1.  No effect.  But inserting the block using Acad 2012 works fine.  There must be some variable that is set different, but I can't find it.

[scottwilcox1989 · Accepted solution]

type -dwgunits at the command prompt.

Enter the values pertaining to the drawing's units.

When prompted with, "Scale objects from other drawings upon insert? [Yes/No]", type N, Enter.

That should stop scaling of objects upon insert.

[Emmsleys · Accepted solution]

This thread has become of an interest to the community. To add to this thread. 

Please take a look at the following system variables that might help, along with the suggestions made by other community members in this post.

• INSUNITS - Specifies a drawing-units value for automatic scaling of blocks, images, or xrefs inserted or attached to a drawing.
• INSUNITSDEFSOURCE - Sets source content units value when INSUNITS is set to 0. Valid range is 0 to 20.
• INSUNITSDEFTARGET - Sets target drawing unit’s value when INSUNITS is set to 0. Valid range is 0 to 20

Check out the link below give great insight to past AutoCAD release and this issue;  

AUGI: Blocks, Images or Xrefs not inserting Correctly.

[euan_c_333]

Hi, any help on this hugely appreciated.

When pasting between a drawing objects (drawing is made up of blocks but have same issue if exploded) are scaled up slightly. I have read the above thread and similar and adjusted -DWGUNITS variables, INSUNITS, INSUNITSDEFx commands to the suggested options and still the objects are scaled when pasted. Is there any other things I could look at to try and resolve this issue? 

Many Thanks

[ehsan_ghassemlou]

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@euan_c_333 wrote:

Hi, any help on this hugely appreciated.

When pasting between a drawing objects (drawing is made up of blocks but have same issue if exploded) are scaled up slightly. I have read the above thread and similar and adjusted -DWGUNITS variables, INSUNITS, INSUNITSDEFx commands to the suggested options and still the objects are scaled when pasted. Is there any other things I could look at to try and resolve this issue? 

Many Thanks

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on properties panel (ctl+1)

modify "Scale X", "Scale Y" and "Scale Z"