Insert Block Issue

[Anonymous]

When I insert a block it doesn't actually show up in my drawing. I am prompted to provide a location and am given the option to scale, etc, but when I complete the command the block isn't there. I have even searched for the block using QSELECT and searching for it by name, but it isn't there. I can insert this block in different drawings without issues. I have found, however, that if I insert it as exploded it will show up. Why can't I insert it as a block though?

[Patchy]

Make sure that the layer is not frozen, qselect can't find it.

[Anonymous]

Thanks for the quick reply. I should have specified that I already checked to make sure layer was on and unfrozen. I have objects on the same layer that are visible/usable, so I had ruled that out as the culprit.

[Patchy]

A block that was created by vertical autocad instead of plain autocad, maybe?

[Anonymous]

I'm afraid I don't understand the distinction between vertical autocad and plain. Could you please explain how this might be the cause of my problem?

[Anonymous]

I should also explain that I have created this block in the same drawing and from within other drawings, but still can't get it to show up in my current drawing. I tried purging all unused blocks (thinking maybe I had too many?) but this hasn't helped either.

[Patchy]

Attach your drawing and let's find out why, and which blocks doing it.

[Anonymous]

The block in question is "rail diag". I just renamed the file and for some reason now it works... I have no idea why though. If you think you can figure out the what & why then please feel free to check out the file. Thanks.

[Patchy]

Could run an Audit to see if it woul fix itself.

Command: audit

Fix any errors detected? [Yes/No] <N>: y



Auditing Header


Auditing Tables


Auditing Entities Pass 1

Pass 1 4000    objects auditedAcDbSortentsTable(8207)
    Error for Entry (4034E,4031E) eDuplicateKey         fixed
AcDbSortentsTable(8207)
    Error for Entry (40CB7,40341) eDuplicateKey         fixed
AcDbSortentsTable(8207)
    Error for Entry (40348,40E11) eDuplicateKey         fixed
AcDbSortentsTable(8207)
    Error for Entry (80208,85B17) eDuplicateKey         fixed
AcDbSortentsTable(8207)
    Error for Entry (8020F,85B1D) eDuplicateKey         fixed
AcDbSortentsTable(8207)
    Error for Entry (85B23,8021F) eDuplicateKey         fixed
AcDbSortentsTable(8207)
    Error for Entry (85B29,80226) eDuplicateKey         fixed
AcDbSortentsTable(8207)
    Error for Entry (8022D,85B2F) eDuplicateKey         fixed
AcDbSortentsTable(8207)
    Error for Entry (85B3B,8023B) eDuplicateKey         fixed
AcDbSortentsTable(8207)
    Error for Entry (80B02,85B4E) eDuplicateKey         fixed
AcDbSortentsTable(8207)
    Error for Entry (80B06,885EA) eDuplicateKey         fixed
Pass 1 5100    objects auditedAcDbPolyline(2412B)  XData Handle Unknown         
      Null
Pass 1 63300   objects audited
Auditing Entities Pass 2

Pass 2 30600   objects auditedAcDbBlockReference(CE519)  BTR Id invalid
AcDbBlockReference(CE519)         could not be repaired.  It will be Erased.
Pass 2 36400   objects auditedAcDbBlockReference(CFE88)  BTR Id invalid
AcDbBlockReference(CFE88)         could not be repaired.  It will be Erased.
Pass 2 47900   objects auditedAcDbBlockReference(D6644)  BTR Id invalid
AcDbBlockReference(D6644)         could not be repaired.  It will be Erased.
AcDbBlockReference(D6645)  BTR Id invalid
AcDbBlockReference(D6645)         could not be repaired.  It will be Erased.
Pass 2 53700   objects auditedAcDbBlockReference(D9691)  BTR Id invalid
AcDbBlockReference(D9691)         could not be repaired.  It will be Erased.
Pass 2 59500   objects auditedAcDbBlockReference(E2D60)  BTR Id invalid
AcDbBlockReference(E2D60)         could not be repaired.  It will be Erased.
Pass 2 63300   objects audited
Auditing Blocks


 950     Blocks audited

Total errors found 18 fixed 18

Erased 6 objects

[Anonymous]

Once again, thank you for your help. I'm afraid the audit results don't mean much to me. Can you give me a quick explanation of why it's significant?

[Patchy]

It looks like the block is from vertical autocad (Architectural or any CAD others than plain Autocad because of the block names)

It doen't show up because you had disabled Show Proxy Objects in this drawing.

It shows on other drawings because you click on Show Proxy Objects.