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JamaL9722060
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Deformation occurring when printing with different scales,

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02-27-2013 07:41 AM

Deformation occurring when printing with different scales,

 

It is gorgeous that one can preserve the text size, hatch size, dimension size, etc. regardless the scale the drawing is going to be printed with.

 

For example, if the text size, hatch size, dimension size, etc. are proper as the drawing is printed with a scale of 1:100 then how about printing this drawing with a scale of 1/50 and 1/200?

 

  • A scale of 1:50 looks fine (attached)

 

  • A scale of 1:200 has some overlaps! (attached)

 

Then how to get a nice drawing (dimension size, text size, hatch size) when printing the drawing with a scale of 1/200?

 

In other words, how the annotation objects can be adjusted proportionally such that no overlaps and distortion is occurred?

 

 

Thank you

 

Best

 

Jamal

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e-mail: JamaL9722060@yahoo.com
P.O.Box: 731, Ramallah, West Bank, Palestine.
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steve216586
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Re: Deformation occurring when printing with different scales,

02-27-2013 08:05 AM in reply to: JamaL9722060

You have room on your sheet to make the 1/200 window larger, maybe to twice the size, and then you can reset the viewport scale so the text is the right paperspace size and also not have everything so crowded together.

 

From all the questions you are asking, I may also suggest a course in AutoCAD as well as general architectural drafting.  At least google "AutoCAD tutorials".  The videos would answer most of your questions in less than 30 minutes.  And probably answer some you haven't asked yet.

 

There's nothing wrong with asking questions, on a peer to peer forum, when stuck for an answer but this is not the place to learn the program.

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JohnKMDTRC
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Re: Deformation occurring when printing with different scales,

02-27-2013 08:32 AM in reply to: steve216586

Have you seen the list of topics in the discussion group page?  There are tons of people asking similar questions to what Jamal asked- some of them have 1 month of CAD experience while others have 10 years of CAD experience.  He is obviously well-educated if he does Civil and GIS Engineering.  So he is stumped on how to make his drawing look better- he asked for advice on 1 thing he had problems with, which is the whole basis for having this Discussion Group.  He did not ask how to load the software, draw a line, add text, and plot it.  Maybe he did not know about the videos that people post, but to suggest that he spend hundreds or thousands of dollars on taking courses because he needs help with one issue is absurd!!!! 

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dgorsman
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Re: Deformation occurring when printing with different scales,

02-27-2013 08:43 AM in reply to: JohnKMDTRC

Stead on, lad.  Poster no doubt recognizes the OP from a host of other, basic, questions that have been asked in the past.  This is not a single question, but a continuance of others.

 

Training doesn't have to be expensive, but it does help especially for discipline and technology questions.  There is zero substitute for working through things yourself - people *learn* by doing.

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GrantsPirate
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Message 5 of 12 (420 Views)

Re: Deformation occurring when printing with different scales,

02-27-2013 08:56 AM in reply to: JamaL9722060

I would show the dimensions in only one viewport, and one that shows the best.  Then not have the dims in the others.

or

set the larger scale and space dims according to the largest text size you will have showing.

 

It is semi-automatic and can't make all assumptions for you.  BTW, this is why I dimension in PS.

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JohnKMDTRC
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Re: Deformation occurring when printing with different scales,

02-27-2013 08:59 AM in reply to: dgorsman

Well I do have to apologize for the fact that I did not know he was referring to the myriad of posts he authored.  I thought he was referring to just this one.  Sorry Steve216586.  Does anyone have a DWG file for a crowbar that is designed to get a foot out of the mouth???

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steve216586
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Re: Deformation occurring when printing with different scales,

02-27-2013 10:24 AM in reply to: JohnKMDTRC

No problem John. 

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JamaL9722060
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Message 8 of 12 (386 Views)

Re: Deformation occurring when printing with different scales,

02-27-2013 01:07 PM in reply to: steve216586

Thank you guys for the help and support,

 

May I highlight steve216586 for something? I did take training courses in AutoCAD, C3D and Revit! Do you think that a training may answer one’s questions! Never! Basically, questions raise as one works but not necessarily during the training!

 

Well, back to my question! I do know that I have enough room to get bigger scale than 1/200! This is not my issue! My issue here is that just in case I need that drawing to be printed with that scale then the dimensions will be crowded as shown in the screenshot! I wanted to know the best practice to handle this issue.

 

Your comments are highly appreciated

 

Best

 

Jamal

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Jamal NUMAN, GIS and Civil Engineer, MSc
e-mail: JamaL9722060@yahoo.com
P.O.Box: 731, Ramallah, West Bank, Palestine.
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Software: AutoCAD 2014, AutoCAD C3D, AutoCAD M3D, Revit
Windows 7 (Ultimate 64 bits),
Firefox 20.0,
Kaspersky 2013.
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steve216586
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Message 9 of 12 (379 Views)

Re: Deformation occurring when printing with different scales,

02-27-2013 01:32 PM in reply to: JamaL9722060

Jamal,

 

I have been trying to help as best I could.  Please excuse me for not knowing the level of your AutoCAD proficiency. You are certainly right that after one finishes school, most of their practical training starts the first day of their job.

 

I do not think there is another way to get the results you describe without either enlargening the viewport or diminishing the size of the dimension text inside that one particular viewport.  Sometimes there just isn't enough room for what you want to detail, without creating a whole new  sheet with that detail view enlarged for clarity.

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JamaL9722060
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Re: Deformation occurring when printing with different scales,

02-27-2013 02:39 PM in reply to: steve216586

Very much appreciated steve. Your comments are really helpful

 

Best

 

Jamal

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Jamal NUMAN, GIS and Civil Engineer, MSc
e-mail: JamaL9722060@yahoo.com
P.O.Box: 731, Ramallah, West Bank, Palestine.
----------------------------------------------------------
Software: AutoCAD 2014, AutoCAD C3D, AutoCAD M3D, Revit
Windows 7 (Ultimate 64 bits),
Firefox 20.0,
Kaspersky 2013.

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