AutoCAD 2011

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I can only assume that the drawing was created by the Client's internal forces... or outside consultant... but it is their concern... I have sent the drawing back to the Client and have requested a viable copy.

[#2 · Accepted solution]

1 - review the contract details and consult with your lawyer (this is what that retainer fee is for); you may have legal options

2 - make sure you notify AutoDesk about where the drawing came from, they may want to take additional action that could prevent others from landing in your situation

3 - if you know the drawing originated from the client rather than simply being passed on, consider black-listing them as a benefit to your professional community; I wouldn't wish EDU content on any of our competitors

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I assume you are in buisness and have waited for a drawing that has been formulated for business. Therefore, the publisher(s) in china used the Educational version illegally. Why not report them to Autodesk?

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The issue is resolved... The drawing has been returned and there is no knowledge of the producer. It is not my responsibility to take any further action. I will take the loss of 3 additional weeks on the project schedule... I have adequate work to keep me busy. It just seems a vary archaic method to control sales of a product. By punishing a third party for the actions of the illegal user... It's like putting a dead body in jail for having been in the way of a bullet from an illegal firearm used by a felon. The felon gets a slap on the wrist.

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Bob, you're right, there have been many innocent parties to Autodesk choosing this virus-style method of trying to ensure that commercial users pay commercial prices for their software.

There are a couple of ironies to this. The first is that users of pirate copies of AutoCAD don't have this problem of creating infected drawings (although they may have other, more serious problems).

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... innocent parties to Autodesk choosing this virus-style...

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What is the old saying, "Ignorance of the law is no excuse?"

Autodesk products pop up a license agreement on install.

Autodesk products pop up a warning when edu content is detected.

Who isn't reading?  The uninformed?  The ignorant?
Sounds like additional training (perhaps in ethics) is in order.

This is a professional field and deserves a professional level of preparation.

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This Issue has been RESOLVED. No further comments or cross-comments should be added. You will be wasting valuable time by adding further comments.

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JDMather wrote:

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... innocent parties to Autodesk choosing this virus-style...

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Autodesk products pop up a warning when edu content is detected.

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They do now, yes. For some years, they didn't. For those people using old releases, they still don't now. The epedemic ran unchecked for years, and maybe hundreds of thousands or even millions of infected drawings worked their way into the system. Some of them will still be out there. I'm not defending the ethics of those who use educational software for commercial purposes, but the nature of the infestation made it very easy for innocent second, third, fourth or fifth parties to suffer. It happened.

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BobMcMillan wrote:

This Issue has been RESOLVED. No further comments or cross-comments should be added. You will be wasting valuable time by adding further comments.

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Bob, I'm glad the issue has been resolved for you personally, but you're not a moderator. While I appreciate your concern about our valuable time, this forum isn't a black-and-white ask-question-get-answer environment. It doesn't work like that. It and its predecessors never have done, dating back to the dark ages of the CompuServe ACAD forum. Very often, a question will be asked and answered, which will lead to further discussion of related issues. That discussion may be useful, pointless, or it may be a matter of opinion. But it's not forbidden, and never should be. If you don't want to see any further discussion in this thread then maybe the best thing to do is to stop reading it.

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They do now, yes. For some years, they didn't.

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What was interesting a few years ago is that Inventor student version would warn when opening a commercial file that if saved it would have an edu banner - yet the commercial release didn't warn when opening student version.  Ouch!