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andrew-ojb
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Registered: ‎12-19-2006
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Phantom Lineweights that can't be purge

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12-20-2012 09:56 AM

This may have a very simple solution that I am overlooking, but recently I have received a number of files that have what I have been describing as phantom linetypes and phantom text styles.

They are behaving the same way that layerfilters behaved ages ago when Autodesk introduced them.

I cannot get rid of them.  Any entity that is copied from one file to the next brings this whole assortment of linetypes and textstyles.

I cannot purge them.

The AECTOACAD command doesn't help.

There is no entity associated with them.

I have even saved a file as a DXF, saved that as n R14 file, and then reopened it only to find these still there.

Any ideas?

 

Attached is a file created from a blank template.  I copied a line into this file (copyclip) and it brought all the unpurgable linetype and textstyles with it.

 

Thanks.

 

 

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Patchy
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Registered: ‎12-04-2012
Message 2 of 13 (4,393 Views)

Re: Phantom Lineweights that can't be purge

12-20-2012 11:09 AM in reply to: andrew-ojb

Did it save from REVIT or something other than Autocad ?

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andrew-ojb
Posts: 28
Registered: ‎12-19-2006
Message 3 of 13 (4,382 Views)

Re: Phantom Lineweights that can't be purge

12-20-2012 01:45 PM in reply to: Patchy

I believe that the source of the problem has been from consultant files that we've received.  I am sure that someone on the team is using Revit and I'm sure someone is using Civil 3d.  I also suspect that someone on the team has brought some sketchup into the mix at some point.

 

It's a jumble of programs being used.

 

The linetype names all seem to be in an AutoCAD x-ref nomenclature though.  It looks like someone bound an x-ref into a drawing.

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Alfred.NESWADBA
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Message 4 of 13 (4,378 Views)

Re: Phantom Lineweights that can't be purge

12-20-2012 01:57 PM in reply to: andrew-ojb

Hi,

 

have you tried to use _WBLOCK then with the option "selected objects"?

Before you start it turn all layers on and thaw them (at least the ones you need) and then select these objects with a window-selection in the modelspace)

 

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Johneng
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Registered: ‎02-04-2009
Message 5 of 13 (4,369 Views)

Re: Phantom Lineweights that can't be purge

12-20-2012 06:27 PM in reply to: andrew-ojb

Open one of your proplem drawings run the DXFOUT command. Open the newly created DXF file and then run the PURGE command until there is nothing left in the DXF file to purge. Save to a DWG file.

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Johneng
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Registered: ‎02-04-2009
Message 6 of 13 (4,343 Views)

Re: Phantom Lineweights that can't be purge

12-21-2012 04:35 AM in reply to: andrew-ojb

Patchy what version  of Autocad are you using. I'm able to DXFOUT and then purge the DXF file just fine in Autocad 2013 and Autocad 2013 LT. See attached DXF and DWG file

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andrew-ojb
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Registered: ‎12-19-2006
Message 7 of 13 (4,278 Views)

Re: Phantom Lineweights that can't be purge

12-31-2012 09:06 AM in reply to: Johneng

It looks like that worked!

 

Thanks.

 

Opening it as a DXF and then purging from there eliminated a bunch of anonymouse groups named *A[and then a number].  The mystery un-purgable linetypes were nested in there.

 

I saw that someone posted this about anonymous objects:  http://www.draftsperson.net/index.php?title=Anonymous_Blocks_in_AutoCAD

 

I also saw that draftsperson.net had this:  http://www.draftsperson.net/index.php?title=RAG_-_Remove_AutoCAD_anonymous_groups

 

Has anyone used that?

 

Thanks again for your help.

 

 

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Karsten.Saenger
Posts: 69
Registered: ‎12-07-2012
Message 8 of 13 (4,208 Views)

Re: Phantom Lineweights that can't be purge

01-03-2013 06:46 AM in reply to: andrew-ojb

Hi,

most likely you problem is caused by x-refs and maybe importing .dgn data.
Please see this link for a more detailed explanation:
http://through-the-interface.typepad.com/through_the_interface/2012/12/purging-unwanted-dgn-linestyl...




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ka4911
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Registered: ‎05-20-2004
Message 9 of 13 (4,159 Views)

Re: Phantom Lineweights that can't be purge

01-06-2013 06:40 PM in reply to: andrew-ojb

Had this problem when I had Architecture-suit, tried everything to get rid of a linetype, didn´t succeed. Have nowadays the suit with Map3D, in fact only using plain AutoCAD, but I got rid of my junkline. Had an old drawing from 2007 as sort of template at that time to solve this issue, I always copy a useful drawing instead of using AutoCAD template.

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3dwannab
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Registered: ‎06-18-2012
Message 10 of 13 (3,696 Views)

Re: Phantom Lineweights that can't be purge

06-21-2013 06:11 AM in reply to: andrew-ojb

Try superpurge with the 'hard purge' type setting http://www.manusoft.com/software/superpurge.html

 

See attached cleaned file which only took a matter of minutes to do.

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