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strodeb
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Message 11 of 15 (919 Views)

Re: Buying older version of autocad

04-01-2010 01:47 AM in reply to: Irish2
Like others I would recommend talking to a reseller & asking for a free demo of a current version run in the classic workspace, I personally think it will be what your looking for & give you the benefit of all the productivity gains in the latest versions. Then get some training & maybe just maybe, start to enjoy using the current version (I wouldn't personally want to go back a few releases!).

If you really really want it to look & feel like older versions of AutoCAD (older than 3 years, which cant be bought legally) then check out ProgeCAD, they do Free & low cost offerings that look & feel EXACTLY like earlier versions of AutoCAD.

I my humble opinion however, ProgeCAD isn’t the right approach. You're standing still in terms of productivity & cost savings and your drawings will fire a "not created in AutoCAD" warning to AutoCAD users when they open your files. I wouldn’t personally want that as a client or as an architectural office as I personally think it looks like penny pinching.
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Irish2
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Message 12 of 15 (919 Views)

Re: Buying older version of autocad

04-01-2010 10:40 AM in reply to: Irish2
Thanks Ben,



"older than 3 years, which can't be bought legally", THAT is the kind of info I was looking for. Even the local reseller couldn't give me the info I was looking for. I am a 1-man shop and all these "productivity" enhancements really don't translate into actual savings when you factor in the learning curve, lost productivity while learning etc. Its a non-plus. Ease of use and intuitive tools are where its at for me. I don't do large commercial projects so there isn't much in the way of collaboration except with my structural engineer and he doesn't care what I use.

I also don't have to be using the latest and greatest but my version 2000 is getting to be a bit TOO old! Right now I'm doing my research for what to move to when I do upgrade. I am also thinking that maybe LT would be best since I have other programs for any 3d work. No matter what I do it has to be legal and upfront but sometimes getting the straight answers is harder than it should be! Thank you everyone for your responses. They have been helpful.
*Brad
Message 13 of 15 (919 Views)

Re: Buying older version of autocad

04-01-2010 01:32 PM in reply to: Irish2
I too, am basically a one-man shop, (was three, had to layoff two) and can
relate to the yearly learning curve for new bells and whistles that don't do
any good; however, there are some improvements that are very helpful. The
trick is to quickly figure out what to ignore or turn off, and what to spend
a few hours learning in order to get a few days of benefit. C3D has been
improved massively since I first bought C3D 2005. This year (2011) they
finally went to true 64 bit so I can use all of my RAM. They also put in an
intersection wizard last year that looks great, but I did not need it so I
will wait for 2011 to arrive before I learn it. As for the Ribbon and other
miscellaneous BS, turn it off or ignore it until there is free time for
training. With the economy being what it is, I have been doing a lot of
free seminars, webinars, and tutorials lately as well as increasing my
marketing activities by 10 fold.

One other item to consider is the operating systems that eventually need to
be upgraded due to hackers, viruses, etc. Old versions of software won't
run on new operating systems. That is why I have my LT on an XP Pro 32 bit
based system. It is not because of LT, but my old QuickBooks 99. I can't
even reload it on new XP Pro 32 bit machine since Intuit won't provide the
needed patches any more! Now I have to purchase multiple copies of
QuickBooks 2010 if I have some much as a hard drive crash and Norton Ghost
screws me again.

Brad
C3D 2010 on Vista Business 64 SP 2
LT 2010 on XP Pro SP 3

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Thanks Ben,



"older than 3 years, which can't be bought legally", THAT is the kind of
info I was looking for. Even the local reseller couldn't give me the info I
was looking for. I am a 1-man shop and all these "productivity" enhancements
really don't translate into actual savings when you factor in the learning
curve, lost productivity while learning etc. Its a non-plus. Ease of use and
intuitive tools are where its at for me. I don't do large commercial
projects so there isn't much in the way of collaboration except with my
structural engineer and he doesn't care what I use.

I also don't have to be using the latest and greatest but my version 2000 is
getting to be a bit TOO old! Right now I'm doing my research for what to
move to when I do upgrade. I am also thinking that maybe LT would be best
since I have other programs for any 3d work. No matter what I do it has to
be legal and upfront but sometimes getting the straight answers is harder
than it should be! Thank you everyone for your responses. They have been
helpful.
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Randy_Culp
Posts: 1,257
Registered: ‎08-17-2007
Message 14 of 15 (919 Views)

Re: Buying older version of autocad

04-05-2010 08:14 AM in reply to: Irish2
> {quote:title=Irish2 wrote:}{quote}
> "older than 3 years, which can't be bought legally", THAT is the kind of info I was looking for. Even the local reseller couldn't give me the info I was looking for.
Before you spend another dime on software, find another reseller. That is the very first info he should have offered. If he can't handle that, run away very fast.
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Randy_Culp
Posts: 1,257
Registered: ‎08-17-2007
Message 15 of 15 (919 Views)

Re: Buying older version of autocad

04-05-2010 08:18 AM in reply to: Irish2
> {quote:title=Irish2 wrote:}{quote}
> "older than 3 years, which can't be bought legally", THAT is the kind of info I was looking for. Even the local reseller couldn't give me the info I was looking for.
Before you spend another dime on software, find another reseller. That is the very first info he should have offered. If he can't handle that, run away very fast.

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