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    Frozen tables in viewports

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    03-25-2008 10:11 AM
    I'm working on a drawing which has tables frozen in the current viewport however, I can still select the frozen tables! When i return the layout with the viewport they arent frozen in, they have moved.

    Is there anyway I can make them un-selectable when they are frozen?
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    Re: Frozen tables in viewports

    03-25-2008 10:53 AM in reply to: big_jimmy_s
    Did the content (or table) move, or did your unlocked viewport shift?

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    Re: Frozen tables in viewports

    03-26-2008 01:36 AM in reply to: big_jimmy_s
    The table did move, yes. I can also scale it when it frozen too, meaning i don't know ive done until i have changed back to the viewport relevant to that table.
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    Re: Frozen tables in viewports

    03-26-2008 01:38 AM in reply to: big_jimmy_s
    I noticed you mentioned that the my viewport is unlocked, however my viewport is locked. Make any difference?
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    Re: Frozen tables in viewports

    03-26-2008 06:09 AM in reply to: big_jimmy_s
    Unfortunately this seems to be an on-going bug with tables, going back to when they were introduced.

    In our case, the table's layer is turned off, not frozen, but same result -- sometimes the invisible tables can be selected even though the layer is off. Or more often, a cell within the hidden table. Doesn't happen all the time, and I haven't found a pattern to be able to predict when the bug will strike, but happens often enough that it has severely limited how we use tables.

    Sometimes using a non-destructive editing command like DrawOrder to move the table to the back will then let the user continue normally, sometimes not.

    I really wish Autodesk would fix long-standing bugs like this rather than introducing yet more half-baked new features.
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    Re: Frozen tables in viewports

    03-08-2011 03:55 AM in reply to: big_jimmy_s

    We also have this problem. It's one of the major irritating bugs we have.

    - In autocad 2005, 2008, 2010, 2011 both MAP, CIVIL, LT...

     

    we use tables a lot to put values on a drawing

     

    A solution would be great.

     

    Greetings,

     

    Pieter

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    Re: Frozen tables in viewports

    03-08-2011 05:47 AM in reply to: Envirosoil

    So you can move tables on frozen layers inside viewports? Or am I missing something? See attached sample, please replicate and repost with details.


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    Re: Frozen tables in viewports

    03-08-2011 08:14 AM in reply to: big_jimmy_s

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    So you can move tables on frozen layers inside viewports? Or am I missing something? See attached sample, please replicate and repost with details.

     

    Thank you for your response.

     

    Indeed: when working in a viewport, one will often accidently select a cell from a table on a frozen viewport (allways a cell, not an whole table). Every autocad from 2005 on in the whole company (>15 users) has this problem. In attachment you see that by clicking a blank space i select the table that is hidden (i din't change the drawing ). 

     

    By the way, sending the table to back of drawing is not good solution, as the tables have white background color so the float above drawing.

     

    Kind Regards,

    Pieter

     

    PS: my current autocad is 2011 LT on a Win7 32bit. Same problem occurs with LT 2011 on Win7 64bit, MAP 3D 2011 and CIVIL 2011 (both win7 and Xp sp3)

     


     

     

     


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    Re: Frozen tables in viewports

    03-09-2011 05:52 AM in reply to: Envirosoil

    Ahh! the cells: that's for the clarification.


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    Re: Frozen tables in viewports

    08-14-2012 08:35 AM in reply to: pendean

    Any chance this problem will ever be fixed? I use tables to do area calcs from the data from plines. I cant put this table into a block or the data looses connection with the plines and I get #######. The only work around I have found to make cells non-selectable is to put them into blocks but it does not work when you connect data into them. So if you need a table that you can turn off or freez, put it into a block. 

     

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