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officeworks
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Registered: ‎05-03-2005
Message 1 of 17 (610 Views)

difference between WBLOCK & BLOCK

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05-05-2005 10:48 AM
hmm....can anyone tell me the difference?
I have created many symbols using the 'make block' tool and i am assuming this is the block command.

I look in the HELP but still can't understand the difference.

I'm using Autocad 2002.

thanks
*Don Reichle
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Re: difference between WBLOCK & BLOCK

05-05-2005 10:56 AM in reply to: officeworks
Hey Office;

I'll give it a go.

Block is used to create one object from one or many entities, usually to be
used over and over as suits the user's needs.

Wblock is used to create a DWG file from either a resident Block in a DWG,
or a collection of entities in a DWG, so that others who have a need to use
those entities or blocks may access them.

Both predate the concepts of the Copyclip function, which has the ability to
perform the function of Wblock without the need to create an additional DWG
file.

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wrote in message news:4836201@discussion.autodesk.com...
hmm....can anyone tell me the difference?
I have created many symbols using the 'make block' tool and i am assuming
this is the block command.

I look in the HELP but still can't understand the difference.

I'm using Autocad 2002.

thanks
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Oberer
Posts: 494
Registered: ‎06-15-2004
Message 3 of 17 (610 Views)

Re: difference between WBLOCK & BLOCK

05-05-2005 11:11 AM in reply to: officeworks
Also, a wblock is actually a separate drawing file you create from objects you selected (or the entire dwg).
Creating an internal block (using BLOCK) creates a goup of objects as don mentioned.

The main difference is that blocks tend to reside in the drawing you create them in. Since a wblock is a separate dwg, it's more easily inserted & shared.

I also agree with Don about the copy clip. "Back in the day", making wblocks was about the only way to share info between drawings. Now it's as easy as saying "copy" (from the menu, not autocads copy) and paste....
*Don Reichle
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Re: difference between WBLOCK & BLOCK

05-05-2005 11:50 AM in reply to: officeworks
Hey Dave;

Thanks for filling in the "gaps". :-)

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Don Reichle
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than training your staff,
and having them leave is -
not training your staff,
and having them stay."
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wrote in message news:4836231@discussion.autodesk.com...
Also, a wblock is actually a separate drawing file you create from objects
you selected (or the entire dwg).
Creating an internal block (using BLOCK) creates a goup of objects as don
mentioned.

The main difference is that blocks tend to reside in the drawing you create
them in. Since a wblock is a separate dwg, it's more easily inserted &
shared.

I also agree with Don about the copy clip. "Back in the day", making
wblocks was about the only way to share info between drawings. Now it's as
easy as saying "copy" (from the menu, not autocads copy) and paste....
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Oberer
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Message 5 of 17 (610 Views)

Re: difference between WBLOCK & BLOCK

05-05-2005 12:10 PM in reply to: officeworks
You know I'm fairly new 'round here Don.... There's quite a nice team and a wealth of info...

Besides that, I personally think many here are a bit more articulate than some of the ambigous help files :smileyhappy:
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officeworks
Posts: 11
Registered: ‎05-03-2005
Message 6 of 17 (610 Views)

Re: difference between WBLOCK & BLOCK

05-05-2005 12:13 PM in reply to: officeworks
thanks...
so let me see if i understand..
wblock is a dwg file consists of many blocks . is that right?
whereas a block is a block created just specifically for the dwg file,.is that right?

now about delete.
i can use purge to delete the blocks in the drawings.
but i am still seeing some redundant blocks when i go to insert/block/browse. where are these blocks and how do i delete them?

regards,
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Oberer
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Message 7 of 17 (610 Views)

Re: difference between WBLOCK & BLOCK

05-05-2005 12:32 PM in reply to: officeworks
"so let me see if i understand..
wblock is a dwg file consists of many blocks . is that right?"

Even easier: wblock is a dwg file. like any dwg, it can contain nothing, or a thousand different types. Typically, it;'s a "subset" of the original dwg. Say for example, your contractor wants a dwg to do some dirt #'s on. You don't need to send him everything that'd be on the construction dwgs. He needs basic grading info. You could create a "wblock" that would contain this smaller subset (info and objects relating to grading).

Yes, you purge block definitions out of your drawing, providing of course, they're not in use :smileyhappy:

"i am still seeing some redundant blocks when i go to insert/block/browse. where are these blocks and how do i delete them?"

It depends on how the blocks were created.

For instance, say I create a block to represent a mahole. I create the first block and call it MH. It's a single circle.
I later realize I'll need a storm manhole and a sanitary, so I decide to create two more blocks.
I insert MH and add a "S" in the middle for sanitary. I then create a new block called SMH that consists of the block MH and the text object.
I can now erase all insertions of MH, but the block MH will still show up since it's "nested" in SMH.

I'm sorry to offer such a long winded explaination, but it is a fairly "deep" subject.


are we getting closer?
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Shane Wayment
Posts: 25
Registered: ‎04-29-2005
Message 8 of 17 (610 Views)

Re: difference between WBLOCK & BLOCK

05-05-2005 12:38 PM in reply to: officeworks
I consider my WBlock command as a long term block, or a block I may put in a library. My block command as a temporary block that is only being used in that drawing and at some point can go away.
*Don Reichle
Message 9 of 17 (610 Views)

Re: difference between WBLOCK & BLOCK

05-05-2005 01:01 PM in reply to: officeworks
Hey Shane;

The other side of that "can go away" coin says that if the block was
necessary to complete the Project in XYZ agency's jurisdiction, it's likely
that it would be needed again.

In my catalog of biggest pet peeves are those who suffer from myopia, and go
around willy-nilly exploding Blocks. Most of the time I'm using them to
perform a Quantity Takeoff for a Cost Estimate. It's far easier to use
Qselect to tell me how many MH_SS or CI_SD there are than a collection of
Circles and Lines (my apologies to Ms. Allen).

--
Don Reichle
"King Of Work-Arounds"
"The only thing worse
than training your staff,
and having them leave is -
not training your staff,
and having them stay."
Courtesy Graphics Solution Providers
--------------------------------------
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wrote in message news:4836379@discussion.autodesk.com...
I consider my WBlock command as a long term block, or a block I may put in a
library. My block command as a temporary block that is only being used in
that drawing and at some point can go away.
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Shane Wayment
Posts: 25
Registered: ‎04-29-2005
Message 10 of 17 (610 Views)

Re: difference between WBLOCK & BLOCK

05-05-2005 01:13 PM in reply to: officeworks
Yes, you are absolutely correct. And in most cases I probably wouldn't delete said blocks, I was just trying to show the subject matter from another point of view. My point is the block is merely temporary in the big picture, and mainly used in that particular project.

I too find it very frustrating when I take the time to properly put a drawing together just to have something exploded due to pure laziness (blocks, dimensions, etc.).
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