igs export

[Anonymous]

Since  the  new  Alias 2011 has been installed at  our  office, no one (15 people) had able  to export a single  surface as igs, step  or etc.

We got  the  attached  error at every  attempt when exporting data...

Please respond  immediately, if  this thing is a bug, let  us  know and  let  us when it will be  fixed.

Btw, I really really hate  Alias. no support, no  innovation, thanks Autodesk, if you do not care, why did  you  bought it anyway? At least there  was  support at Alias times.

[Anonymous]

Problem solved, As far as I understand, direct connect need to be installed ..

Old days direct  connect was  just  an optional plugin that  have to pay for  it seperately, and  target  software  that  you want to export data, has to be installed at the  same  computer also to make direct  connect work.

So now  the  situation is, without  direct connect installed, you are  unable to export import any kind  of data...

I really  wonder who is responsible  from this messy decisions on Alias..

Wait Rhino, coming  for  you...

[Anonymous]

You can still get direct connect updates and only UG NX and JT file translation is charged extra. Files like IGS, STEP, Catia V4/5, Pro/E Granite are provided free of cost with alias.

Contact your authorised reseller or autodesk support for any additional help.

[Anonymous]

2011 has a major problem with the .iges translator. If you import an .iges file it will increase the size by a factor of about 10. In other words if I bring in a 10 meg file, then save it, it will be about 100megs. Even if it was a file made by Alias.

I went through a bunch of tech support for this using many different files until they told me " this is working correctly"

So if you work where alias is used for surfaces and a solid modeller is used for engineering, you have a big problem.

Is this just a sneaky way to get us to by Direct Connect? If it is, then when I did have the DC for the other software I used, it never worked properly and I was told by tech support on many occasions that it was a problem with the other software.

(Unigraphics). Sorry folks, after that I just don't trust you.

Im really close to having my group learn UG and ditch Alias. It may not be as good for surface manipulation, but it can at least make fillets that work!

[Anonymous]

If your company is running later versions of Autodesk Inventor, you can simply open a .wire file in Inventor and use the surface(s) in Inventor. No need to translate.

[Anonymous]

If you hate alias why are you using it?

[Anonymous]

Dear, I am not  using  it, my  company does. It is a  decision made years  ago, but  I  will be  able  to switch  it to a better  one  like  rhino, if Alias keeps sucking  like they did till now?

Before  2 years it was 15 seats now  only  8 seats, and 6 Rhino. 😉

Any questions?

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[Anonymous]

You've missed the point entirely. Weather of not I like or hate Alias is not the issue, I've used it since version 1.

The issue is that I work where there are a few designers and a lot of engineers. Translating data back and forth is critical. When I get a file from an engineer, do some work and send it back and it takes 20 minutes for them to load it because Alias makes a huge file, it's simply a business issue in that Im slowing the process.

As the response above from the Autodesk person illustrates, they want me to buy another Autodesk product in order to solve the problem with their .iges translator. Not going to happen, our engineers are happy with what they have. I did in fact pay for the direct connect for a few years, and it also never worked- Alias teck support constantly blamed Unigraphics for not working wit them. Well, I paid Autodesk for it and it didn't work. One of the responses I got was that "it looks like this model is coming from some kind of solid modeller, that's the problem" No ****! It was an NX direct connect!

Experiences like this with Autodesk's support of the Alias tools in the last few years makes me not trust them to support their products adequately anyway.

The reality is that I don't want to use anything else, but I may have to. Im hoping to have better luck with 2012.

[Anonymous]

Actually you are very optimistic about Alias. around 7-8 years ago, Alias  was  an  amazing  product, but  now? They did nothing to develope it. Since from the  version Alias Wavefront 9.0 realy nothing  changed, not  one  usefull code added I think. But when you compare this  situation with  Maya, as  another  popular software from same company, developement is amazing.

So why is that? why  the hell Alias do not care  about Studio, while  there  boosting  up maya? I think that is  a strategical decision. We are  way ahead of the  times  that we  pay huge  amounts around 50000 bucks to a caid  software, cause market became  much more  competitive.. So they are  trying  to  suck  as much as money from the big companies like mercedes, bmw, siemens, etc while they can. Cause they know that it will not last forever..

I still con not  believe, they stuck  with raytrace rendering, at a market that a college freshmen can take  rendering with one  click without  any adjustments etc. Is it really  that  hard  to implement  a GI rendering, and creating a way practical working caid software? I also agree with  PTERRY at the point  that Alias made a  big strategical mistake by seperating  paint  and  rendering tools instead of  merging them  and serving  to  designers as a  one pack solution. It is  really emberrasing to hear form Alias everytime, for  visualising  you can try  maya  or  Alias image studio.. Why  should  I pay extra for better tools I already deserved with  the money we spent.. Or same thing  with  paint feature, it is full nonsense many  packs has  it  and  others  don't..I  mean that one  pack solution thing was  the  powerfull distinctive side  of  Alias.

And who am I telling these? I am  an old ex  Alias tech guy and  trainer so I really know what I am talking  about.

Alias was  a great product but now  it seems  like  they are just trying  to con us..

Salute.

[Ruediger-Ambs]

Hello to all,

I do understand your point of view, but still I do believe that Alias developed a lot since the old Alias/Wavefront days.

Just think about all the improvements in the class A surfacing.

If you have trouble with Iges import/export? Can you post a test file please?

The problem with Iges is that there are many different versions out there. This causes all the time problems. I actually try to avoid this format at all. BTW: With which software are you actually exchanging geometries? Is it Catia or PRO/E or something else? Maybe there is a better format for exchange.

Kind regards,

Rüdiger

[donest]

If you have legitimate complaints about Alias maybe you should post that where they are sure to read it. There are always surveys that I get, after contacting support, where I can help with the development of the software by answering their questions. This seems like a much more positive way of improving the software instead of coming here and complaining. And I would not lay the blame with Alias. The company is now part of Autodesk, don't forget.

I've never had any problem with sending others files that are opened in Rhino or various softwares that create tool paths for CNC machining. I've been doing that since 1995.